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Made_in_Brazil · 10-06-2008, 08:00 AM

I prefer to be a lurker, but since I was compelled to post on Dr Deagle's thread, I feel I now must add a final word or two on the following interviews provided by kerry and Bill.

While I don't quite agree with everything that David always says - and that's how it should be - his balanced input was quite on the mark, IMHO. I had stated, before his interview was posted, that dreams and visions are symbolic in nature - archetypes, unsolved issues, fears, expectations etc, meant - first and foremost - for the dreamer him/herself. It doesn't mean that one can't eventually tap into the collective and channel what is being held on store in the mass consciousness in terms of probabilities. The accuracy of such readings, though, would depend on how much inner work said 'prophet' has been doing, facing his own fears and shadows first, before he/she ventures to channel what he eelieves to be 'factual events' to the masses.

David made it clear and helped to neutralize the negativity - in that aspect - not by *denying * it ( denial actually precipitates negativity ), but by putting the cards on the table and exposing it in a very candid manner. I was pleased to listen to his respose (ability) at that moment.

The forum - It's my undertanding that some people are bending towards the polarization of the Light & Love vs The Fear and Dark folks, including some interesting remarks, here and there, questioning "some posters's real intentions and agendas" whenever they engage conversations on topics that address negativity. It wouldn't work like this, IMO. We all have both polarities within and no fear or shadows can be transmuted if it's cast aside as 'undesireble', unwelcome, denied / supressed. Allowance is a key word here. Allowing shadows to come forth and be integrated, before it amplifies and escapes control seeking for release if it remains repressed/high pressured in the collective unconsciousness. I see all posters and insiders adding a perspective necessary to the holoview, so that we can examine an issue looking at all of its aspects. No need to start questioning one another's "agenda".

I'd just add my final paragraphs here by saying what I personally think to be the most important issue of all - to my personal belief, of course:

This is a reflective Universe. The Illuminatti is just a mirror of our own shadows government within and the victimization mentality we've allowed ourselves to perpetuate up until now. The more overlooked and denied our inner compartimentalized darkness and victimization issues have been, the more power outside their structure has gotten. There won't be any conflict resolution by battling 'the enemy outside', diverted by the dramas taking place on the objective world around, if we remain blind to the narcotraffic of toxic energies subtly taking place in the subjectivity of our own psyches.

There's no 'safe place'. Wherever we go, we can't escape heaven and hell within us, until we've solved this duality. No nuclear blast would happen outside when we properly deal with our own individual radioactive issues begging for fission. That's when positive thought is effective and we're not targets anymore. Once again, The Illuminati are visitors from within.

Just another input adding up to so many others, alll equally valid.

To my mind, when Dr Deagle's audio was posted, the forum immediately acted like a buffer, surrounding the issue by all sides - which was very benefitial, IMO. Some even mentioned the word virus (memes) and that's how a sick organism mobilizes its anticorps to neutralize infection.

In that case, Dr Deagle's meme channeling out in the open people's innermost fears has a necessary release purpose, the forum's mobilization and David's countering, a welcome medicine that could well help innoculate undesired systemic memes.

hugs to all
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explorers, the dreamers, the magicians, the visionaries, the shaman, the
mapmakers, the lovers, and the healers, stepping out from the fringe, and
coming together to redefine the possible."

10-06-2008, 08:00 AM	#28
Made_in_Brazil Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 16	Re: If I was David Wilcock.... I prefer to be a lurker, but since I was compelled to post on Dr Deagle's thread, I feel I now must add a final word or two on the following interviews provided by kerry and Bill. While I don't quite agree with everything that David always says - and that's how it should be - his balanced input was quite on the mark, IMHO. I had stated, before his interview was posted, that dreams and visions are symbolic in nature - archetypes, unsolved issues, fears, expectations etc, meant - first and foremost - for the dreamer him/herself. It doesn't mean that one can't eventually tap into the collective and channel what is being held on store in the mass consciousness in terms of probabilities. The accuracy of such readings, though, would depend on how much inner work said 'prophet' has been doing, facing his own fears and shadows first, before he/she ventures to channel what he eelieves to be 'factual events' to the masses. David made it clear and helped to neutralize the negativity - in that aspect - not by denying it ( denial actually precipitates negativity ), but by putting the cards on the table and exposing it in a very candid manner. I was pleased to listen to his respose (ability) at that moment. The forum - It's my undertanding that some people are bending towards the polarization of the Light & Love vs The Fear and Dark folks, including some interesting remarks, here and there, questioning "some posters's real intentions and agendas" whenever they engage conversations on topics that address negativity. It wouldn't work like this, IMO. We all have both polarities within and no fear or shadows can be transmuted if it's cast aside as 'undesireble', unwelcome, denied / supressed. Allowance is a key word here. Allowing shadows to come forth and be integrated, before it amplifies and escapes control seeking for release if it remains repressed/high pressured in the collective unconsciousness. I see all posters and insiders adding a perspective necessary to the holoview, so that we can examine an issue looking at all of its aspects. No need to start questioning one another's "agenda". I'd just add my final paragraphs here by saying what I personally think to be the most important issue of all - to my personal belief, of course: This is a reflective Universe. The Illuminatti is just a mirror of our own shadows government within and the victimization mentality we've allowed ourselves to perpetuate up until now. The more overlooked and denied our inner compartimentalized darkness and victimization issues have been, the more power outside their structure has gotten. There won't be any conflict resolution by battling 'the enemy outside', diverted by the dramas taking place on the objective world around, if we remain blind to the narcotraffic of toxic energies subtly taking place in the subjectivity of our own psyches. There's no 'safe place'. Wherever we go, we can't escape heaven and hell within us, until we've solved this duality. No nuclear blast would happen outside when we properly deal with our own individual radioactive issues begging for fission. That's when positive thought is effective and we're not targets anymore. Once again, The Illuminati are visitors from within. Just another input adding up to so many others, alll equally valid. To my mind, when Dr Deagle's audio was posted, the forum immediately acted like a buffer, surrounding the issue by all sides - which was very benefitial, IMO. Some even mentioned the word virus (memes) and that's how a sick organism mobilizes its anticorps to neutralize infection. In that case, Dr Deagle's meme channeling out in the open people's innermost fears has a necessary release purpose, the forum's mobilization and David's countering, a welcome medicine that could well help innoculate undesired systemic memes. hugs to all --------------------------------------------------------------------- "We are the mystics, the scientists, the artists, the cybernauts, the explorers, the dreamers, the magicians, the visionaries, the shaman, the mapmakers, the lovers, and the healers, stepping out from the fringe, and coming together to redefine the possible." Last edited by Made_in_Brazil; 10-06-2008 at 08:10 AM.