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Old 10-04-2008, 07:43 PM   #40
Lance
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Default Re: What about those in US who rely on welfare

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Originally Posted by lucrum View Post
I just wanted to add to this thread that it seems it totally derailed from the original purpose of the OP.

It evolved into a discussion wether or not disabled or lesser fortunate should have the right to live or not. To me that's an aweful idea and I would like to urge everyone to get back to the original question here:

What about those in US who rely on welfare?

It's a good question, what about those that have no means of self sustainability? What will become of their welfare assets with this bailout passed?

It was a completely on target question and I would like to see some on target answers to them
One of the points in a slow (vide: intentional) collapse is to GET people into the cystem (sic). It seems like the cheques will still flow but the purchasing power of those cheques will decline rapidly. Then the PTw will start a war and all those slowly starving on their ever diminishing will be forced to join the military...here is a good run down written by a friend of mine recently.

"So..a government(sic) trillions of fun coupons in debt now owns the debt of most all it's citizens.... hmmm..... What is the only tangible thing they got for their money...oh yea, weapons.
Now, if you make it a criminal offense to be in debt then you can radically increase the prison population; this gets you more slave labour which, in turn, will drastically reduce production costs. This also gives you a reliable psuedo middle class (read guards/administrators). furthermore, once a criminal in the States, you can never again apply for the usual benifits to stay alive, nor vote; thus reducing the chance of democratic change (as if that has ever been there).
But some of the folks might catch on and become rebellious. Thus an outside war is a must (with draft). This will ensure that most able-bodied men and women are kept off the streets, shipped out of the country or at least kept in government 'training camps'. War brings casualties, thus ensuring a second psuedo middle-class segment of caregivers etc. Meanwhile the useless back at home can be given crumbs to live out their lives in near poverty, keeping the production of ammo/weapons an other war related items going as fast as possible. Not that they are any safer from your final psuedo middle class segment. Those home security types, happily going about their misserable lives spying, arresting, trying and taxing those in the country, according to the latest economic needs of the government.
Wait a minute, I just reviewed the last century. So...this either gets increased to the nth degree or...the whole thing goes to rot. Either way, hell can no longer pretend heaven and the garden of Eden, as it has always been, shows itself as no more then a place with clean water/food and real humans...not these ugly lizzards pretending they own this planet, and its people, to destroy at their whim. oh yea....and **** the sheep; they will be eating their own before it is all said and done. " Anonymous Friend

The short and sweet of it. If I were to offer advice for anyone, anywhere on Guvmint assistance I would say 'get ye to a library' and order any and all books on Permaculture you can summon. It is one of those design techniques applicable in all situations and since you have free time...you might as well be learning a transition skill. It will come in handy.
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