Thread: The Third Jihad
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:48 PM   #10
Mummy_bean
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Default Re: The Third Jihad

Alysse


First of all it's absolutely, totally not true to say that the Rothschilds have anything to do with all of radical Islam as we see it today. There are so many layers of things going on and so many stories unfolding. Let's get one thing straight that the 'R's or other forces are most certainly not in control of everything and everyone. That doesn't mean people who start or try to justify wars don't manipulate these situations to suit their own ends.

Radical Islam is in itself a very loose term. If you're talking about Islamic terrorists who are willing to carry out attacks, then that's one thing. Radical Islam can mean just strict Islam, a return to core values. It might mean an effort to return to spirituality, like a 'renewal' - avoiding having core beliefs and practices badly affected by 'western influences.' There's a branch of Islam that openly wants to establish a worldwide Islamic State...this is quite honestly the most overt system out there of talking about world control, and yet it's so often overlooked or dismissed. The most far reaching radicals will stop at nothing to achieve this or talk about how they will achieve it. This is nothing to do with the 'R's at its source, in my opinion, but you never know if certain ideologies might be accelerated or financed. To justify a 'war', things may be helped along a little ....

However, most radical Muslims are just extremely angry at the way in which they have been treated by others. A lot of what the media calls 'Al Qaeda' is just pockets of dissonance.

It is not so great leap as some might imagine to go from being a disaffected young person to being convinced to become a suicide bomber.

Also, a lot of what is described as 'terrorism' is an attempt to fight back in a war without frontiers. Does a terrorist call himself a terrorist? Never. He calls himself a freedom fighter or a radicalist. He sees himself as a soldier. BTW I do not support this or condone it in anyway, it's just that we are soooo conditioned to think that we are the good guys and they are the bad guys and we don't look at other perspectives.

Muslims have a clear concept of brotherhood and connectedness, regardless of geography - the same as christians do. But perhaps more so. It's the same as if Americans were being attacked or persecuted in some country somewhere, someone woudl rise up to defend or rescue them. Even tho I just said that Muslims feel this connection to eachother, there's also a lot of fighting between them too. It's not clear cut. The vast majority of Muslims want peace and stability just as much as the vast majority of everyone else.


So yeah, I'd say that some war mongerers use their knowledge of all this to create certain situations. I don't believe that 7/7 in London was one of them. That was the real deal. 9/11 I am not sure of, and I don't think we will ever be.... I actually would probably say this was 50/50 or 60/40. It wasn't what it was presented as, that's for sure.

Al Fayed - If you were the Queen and her family would you be pleased about that match? He was a player with a controlling and manipulative father who saw a marriage into the Royal family as one-upmanship. What a trumph that woudl have been. Even without all of those things, common sense would say that was not a great match. I don't believe the conspiracies around this, BTW.


I can't see the 'R's having any direct influence whatsoever over the Ayatollahs! Except to indirectly **** them off!

In summary, I certainly don't believe the 'R's are controlling this or pushing all these buttons....no no no nooooooooooo........ people are stupid enough, they don't always need help or prodding from the so called 'illuminati'.

Hope that helps, other may disagree. Fair ;'nuf!

Peace.

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