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Originally Posted by Martian Tigress
I work as a volunteer for the Disclosure Project, so I have had the good fortune to hear some of the witnesses' stories in person. Interestingly, they pretty much all say the same thing: scary, controlling abductions are secret-government/military operations to insure that contactees stay terrorized and that non-contactees shy away from the whole contact issue.
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There is a big problem with this neat partition into "scary, controlling abductions = secret gov/black ops VS positive, supportive encounters = real friendly ETs." It fails to acknowledge that secret gov/black operators AND extraterrestrials can BOTH deceptively present themselves as "friendly ETs". These account for virtually ALL friendly encounters in my opinion.
Also there has likely been joint alien/human societies underground for ages and these are likely in league with surface secret gov't forces. For all these reasons i am very wary of three kinds of contactees.
1) Those who "protesteth too much" about having NO military intelligence relationships... ala Miriam.
2) Those who emerge straight out the bowels of deep black intelligence groups to blow their whistles. I suspect that they and others who talk about "my friends in CIA" etc will not bite too hard on the hand that feeds and protects them. And where is the discourse in the Disclosure Project about "ETs" and black gov't operators who deceptively present themselves as "concerned and helpful ETs"?
and 3) everyone else who is contacted by entities who proclaim themselves "extraterrestrial" as if that was the ultimate credential to prove their spiritual ID and orientation. It is not.
And who isn't an "extra-terrestrial" anyway. Every soul who incarnates on this planet is "extra-terrestrial" in the strictest sense of the word. No soul originates on planet earth. All are spiritual beings sojourning here in the cycles of time and space and all will eventually transcend the Earth to return to origin in the higher planes.
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Originally Posted by Martian Tigress
They also say that while individual groups of Skypeople hold differing views on things, they are all peaceful, and interact peacefully with one another.
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As Mandy Rice- Davies would have said .. "They would say that wouldn't they."
Just as i wouldn't jump to a conclusion that all ETs are evil, i also wouldn't be too quick to take friendly encounters at face value and conclude that friendly "ETs" (or earth-humans) are trustworthy just because they're friendly and powerful and knowledgable. Things are more complex and i'd like to see more acknowledgement of those complexities all round..... including in the analyses of Project Camelot and Disclosure Project interviews.
So this thread is a breath of fresh air.
The "powers that be" always seek to control the dialogue -- even in the most unlikely places -- and they always seek to control a "new paradigm" by presenting us with 2 false choices. There are many layers to that onion.