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Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
333, I too have lived 'off grid' with some others, and after about 6 weeks decided 'enoughs enough' after watching theft and deceit rip the group apart.
Why? because as i was fishing and bringing in food, people were supposed to do their alloted tasks like split the wood and build a log pile.
Did they do it? no, and when i made my own fire and ate my own fish and didn't share they got snotty about it.
I gave the 'work as a group, eat as a group' speech, and carried on eating.
They decided I was selfish not to share the fish, and I pointed out that i was cold wet and hungry and they were selfish not to make the fires. A reply I got was 'well you made one quick enough'.
Some people think they can live with others, but in reality they just want to have zero responsibilites and let others do all the work.
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I agree, Sol. It's nice to talk about everyone living in harmony together, but when the rubber meets the road it's a different story. Communism, on paper, is a great idea, but when you throw in even one greedy human it doesn't work.
That is why I think our sole purpose at this time is to work within ourselves towards developing as much selflessness and love as possible. Without a group of truly loving, selfless people, the dissolution of the illuminati is irrelevant. As long as there is greed and hatred in this world we will always have an illuminati, whether global or local.
Citizen, I respect your opinion, and I think it is a beautiful ideal, but the problem is not "them", it's "us". That means you and me. We will go on and on and on creating new financial systems, new constitutions, new business models, new social welfare systems, new anything, but they will always be corrupted by the hatred and greed that
we perpetrate.
So I think the real question is not "How do we create a new society, financial system, etc?", but "How do we work towards selflessness and peace within and amongst ourselves?". The rest will grow out of that.