I want to add to 404's comments here - there are 3 things going, halfpast human, which is pricey at over 200 dollars, but that is all the hard data for a particular run of the web-bots program, something only a true geek would love, and with my non-geekyness, I anticipate would take a huge harddrive and a lot of programmer and linguistic skills (something Clif has) to interpret. Wanna manipulate numbers and charts? Without the skillset to interpret, it's gonna be pretty useless to most of us. (And I say all this with the greatest respect to geekyness

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Then there is Peoplenomics, which is George Ure's subscription site, runs 40 dollars a year (less than $4 a month) and has extended info beyond his FREE SITE, which is UrbanSurvival.com. (George and Clif are the Time Monks who together bring us the web-bot info)
Everything that is really important will end up on the free site, which is updated Monday through Friday, so rather than complain about the cost or get into arguments over ethical/not ethical, just go on over to the free site,
http://www.urbansurvival.com, and read the important info there.
George's extended supply list (which seems to be what the original poster was posting about, the "Get Ready to Go Camping" report, not a real HPH report), which was posted on Peoplenomics (i.e., the $40 a year site), was simply his personal wish list of things to have/do in case of emergency. None of them was original (water, food, shelter, clothing, comunication.), but they were things he felt was of value if everything goes to heck in a handbasket. You can find the same information all over the web, if you will just search for it. In fact, I would strongly recommend you do the research for yourself, because in looking at what your particular siutation is (are you rural, are you urban, do you have extended family to consider, what about meds, etc) you can get really clear on what YOU need. George lives on a ranch in Texas, so some of his needs will not be the same as yours.
Have you done your planning, should things go south? Are you implementing those plans now? It's not fear mongering to be prepared. It's only fear mongering if you attach an emotion to it, focus on it and let it paralyze you. I have clothes for all seasons, I'm prepared (at least in terms of clothes, but a girlfriend I have is the MOST prepared in terms of shoes of any one person I've ever seen, LOL) But I don't even think about clothes emotionally, because there's nothing to be emotional about.
Alys
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Originally Posted by Number 404
I do not see the information underneath Urban Survival as being any more enlightening than what you can read for free.
Clif has said it time and time again... the information is for those that have enough foresight as well as the funds to appreciate the additional information.
I am not here to defend HPH or Urban Survival... I just wanted to say that
if INFORMATION is only accessible via a registered account and somebody just goes and posts it, I don't question the company charging for the registration... I question the person posting irresponsibly.
If you think it is irresponsible of HPH charging the fee they charge, contact them. Debating it here is fruitless as well as not within the realm of Avalon's message.
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