[lohiaaditya]

I totally agree with Number 404.

I have had personal experiences with Cliff. He is a great guy. If I know one person in the world wouldnt jump at the first sight of money it will have to be Cliff. I stress I speak through personal experience.

He and George have stressed countless times that the subscription is only for wealthy who can afford 'entertainment' and not for the people who have less money. I suggest people to listen to his interviews before coming to a judgement. Go to his website halfpasthuman.com The biggest message you ll see is 'flee, your sanity is at risk'. money makers wouldnt say that. Again, I was actually trying my best to avoid this thread but it got the better of me. Since I know Cliff a little from email exchanges, I can gurantee you beyond a shadow of a doubt that this person is not in it for money. If he was, he woudl have been a multi millionaire already.

It would be okay in my opinion to debate the validity of the technology, but not of the people making it. If you work, as your days job by making a technology. Would you give it for free and not make any money and beg on the street for living? No is what I guess the answer is. And he does give very important stuff for free at urbansurvival.com You didnt get the 7th OCT from subcriptions. It was there for free on the other site.

My point is without knowing someone it is unfair to criticize them.