[NancyV]

I have gone back and forth in my mind about the "responsibility" issue regarding people who come forth to tell of their experiences, and at this point I don't think they are responsible to tell others everything... or even anything. If they do tell some of what they know, I am grateful. If they have reasons for not telling all they know, I cannot judge what those reasons are.

If I were John Lear or Henry Deacon I would probably have left this forum also after the rudeness that was displayed. Men who have been through these experiences don't need to be nipped at and barked at by people who think they have a "right to know" or presume to judge something they have no direct experience with. This is one of the reasons why more of these men don't tell all.

Many of these men begin their careers thinking they are serving the greater good. By the time they realize they aren't sure what the greater good IS they are often too deeply involved. If they decide to finally get out they are lucky to get out with their lives. They certainly don't need a bunch of rabid vengeance seekers, blamers and people who don't accept responsibility for their own ignorance blaming them for situations that have been a reality for many, many decades or centuries.

If you seek knowledge, don't bite the hand that helps you acquire it. They don't need you. You do need their knowledge, or at least you seem to profess that you desire knowledge. Maybe there is a good reason not to tell the average person all the bizarre manipulations and lies they have been fed their entire lives.

We are each on our own path, alone, learning at our own pace. We are very lucky if we can cooperate with some people some of the time, but no one really OWES us anything.

Nancy