[Floyd]

I have spent a large art of my life studying "cults" and new religious movements. Bill Ryan is entitled to believe in whatever he wants. Indeed, I have to say Scientology is a very dubious movement. Its founder, L Ron Hubbard was involved in theosophy and so called black magic tantric sex groups aswell as being a pulp sci fi writer. Hubbard himself has been deemed a pathological liar and a paranoid schizophrenic which may explain his hatred of psychiatry(though he is not alone there). I dont think Bill Ryan imposes his beliefs on anyone, explicitly. I admire a lot of his work and he is a very interesting man. I dont think he should be attacked because of his beliefs. From what I can intuit from the embryonic Avalon 2, well that is a cause for concern. It displays all the symptoms of a NRM (new religious movement). Its would be founders are alieanting themselves from their former partners, excluding them and putting in place a board of spiritual governers. I admire Bill's work but the guys he's got doing the job for him. I feel sympathy for those of you who have had a passion for this community and are being nudged out. They need to think again on this one.