Cant help but feel we are talking to our selves.
Richard hasn't replied to any post that I can see.
Moxie--- Great advice.
As im sure you know Eckhart basically says it dosnt have to the route of the cross ie crucification or misery before we turn to the spiritual.
I wish I had read that age three
Mind you when rock bottom is hit, humility follows through the famous 12 steps of AA, thats from personal experience.
I wouldn't wish that route on anyone, however the rewards have been great.
Think times they are a changing, Every one that trod the path in the past has made the way easier for us.
Chris