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TraineeHuman · 02-13-2010, 10:43 AM

Gnosis5, I agree it’s true that we can evolve spiritually only by facing the reality of where we are at, which does include facing all the undesirable habits. However, I believe the best way to do that may not necessarily be the way you – and I assume most scientologists – do it. I can relate an anecdote in support of my claim.

Sufiism has three sects. Of these, the “advanced” sect are the Nashqbandi. Its two High Sheiks (its heads) used to frequently travel around the entire world, to interview all the spiritual teachers and telepathically take in everything they had to teach. They found the homes of all such teachers purely through using blind clairvoyance/telepathy. Maybe the High Sheiks continue to do this to this day. But I know they visited Australia in the late 1970s. At that time they visited, among others, a man who was my therapist and spiritual teacher at the time. He had been a staff member of scientology, but dropped out in 1977 to start his own practice using some scientology techniques. According to a sign at the Sydney headquarters, he was one of the first scientology “clears” in Sydney.

The sheiks camped their tent in his living room for two weeks. He said they proceeded to use telepathy to go through his mind to search out every detail of what he knew, as if they were searching through a filing cabinet. At the end of this, they told him their conclusion. They told him that he was “determined to cross the quicksand by wading through it, instead of by flying over it”. According to them, this wouldn’t work very effectively. There was an easier way, they said.

So I don’t believe it’s a matter of having to wade through all one’s negativity before one is ready to for more positive things.

02-13-2010, 10:43 AM	#23
TraineeHuman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	Re: Between Lives - A Deeper Look Gnosis5, I agree it’s true that we can evolve spiritually only by facing the reality of where we are at, which does include facing all the undesirable habits. However, I believe the best way to do that may not necessarily be the way you – and I assume most scientologists – do it. I can relate an anecdote in support of my claim. Sufiism has three sects. Of these, the “advanced” sect are the Nashqbandi. Its two High Sheiks (its heads) used to frequently travel around the entire world, to interview all the spiritual teachers and telepathically take in everything they had to teach. They found the homes of all such teachers purely through using blind clairvoyance/telepathy. Maybe the High Sheiks continue to do this to this day. But I know they visited Australia in the late 1970s. At that time they visited, among others, a man who was my therapist and spiritual teacher at the time. He had been a staff member of scientology, but dropped out in 1977 to start his own practice using some scientology techniques. According to a sign at the Sydney headquarters, he was one of the first scientology “clears” in Sydney. The sheiks camped their tent in his living room for two weeks. He said they proceeded to use telepathy to go through his mind to search out every detail of what he knew, as if they were searching through a filing cabinet. At the end of this, they told him their conclusion. They told him that he was “determined to cross the quicksand by wading through it, instead of by flying over it”. According to them, this wouldn’t work very effectively. There was an easier way, they said. So I don’t believe it’s a matter of having to wade through all one’s negativity before one is ready to for more positive things.