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I read some of this thread for the first time today.

I do see people not playing nice in this thread - so I guess the moderators have to work harder now.

For my own contribution to the debate - there are no facts that can be presented with sufficient clarity on a forum that will satisfy all of us. What we have here is the grey area (no pun intended) of "testimony" and its worth remembering that each of us on this forum is allowed to present that and should be able to do so without fear of ridicule, but that does not always seem to be happening.

You were all born with a 100% accurate B******t meter inside you - you can all learn to use it with 100% accuracy but it takes work. Owing to the fact, that none of us have mastered this yet - or maybe some of us have - I dont know, I know I have not. Even if I had, on the forum its still my words and they can be doubted even if they contain truth.

So what we have left is debate and discussion. The moderators are not here to protect anyone or show favours. The moderators are here to see to it that "Avalon" proceeds according to the forum guidelines.

Many recent posters to this thread are encouraged to review thier approaches.

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