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Originally Posted by Moxie

Without Community in a very remote location, there is not much chance of surviving what is coming. Besides the 2012 probabilities of earth changes, the global economic/food/water situation is dire indeed.
My husband and I have failed to form a community, we are alone w/what we have built... garden/greenhouse/egg production, etc... we are not fooling ourselves to think we could survive long while helping others too, we would soon perish.

We are considering liquidating everything and relocating to a very remote "safe" place (according to all future probable maps we are already in a safe location geographically), however, just the two of us cannot do all the work that is necessary to survive, it's just not realistically possible. As Ivan Stein questioned himself "how can I best serve mankind?" and the answer was not to remain in such a vulnerable place even though he had the "stuff" to survive, with the desire to want to help others, he would soon perish also.. you can only help so many and not be able to fend off the others that are desparate.

... the only answer is to form a Community in a very remote location. I agree with this view.

It's clear to me, whether one is aware or not, there is not much chance of surviving the greatest depression & food shortage ever (not to mention probable earth changes) ... and let's face it... there are not many that are seriously moving into community, willing to uproot entirely & join w/"strangers" into community of sustainable living...

We are very soberly facing what clearly looks like extreme hardship.

Wow Moxie ! Are you sounding the alarm ?

Given that you and your husband are on the same page and have no other dependant family members, it would be quite easy for you to go and join another likeminded community project.

Or... you could invite in others like yourself with a variety of skills and hunker down on your own property.
I'm still undecided whether I should take action or not.
Eventhough I live on a small island in the eastern Meditteranean, there is a 5,000 ft. mountain range within 40 minutes driving distance.

The clock is ticking and we should all begin deciding soon. We own a small plot of land up there, but short of winning the lottery, I don't think that I will have the funds in time to do something with it.