[greybeard]

[QUOTE=trainedobserver;234015]RedeZra,

Why would there need to be someone to create or destroy anything? As I've stated before it is just as easy to say and "believe" that the universe and everything in it has always existed as it is to say it was created by a being who always existed.
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Trainedobserver
First I respect your honesty and integrity.
Does time even exist? I dont know.

Its all a puzzle to me.
Universes come into existence then decay
New universes are being formed and the current universe is expanding.
Things happen at the speed of light. All by chance? I dont know.

Ramana said "There is no creation or dissolution"
Perhaps the mind is dreaming it all. And thats ok.

The Sages say uniformly. We existed before all universes and will exist after all universes dissolve.
The in breath and the out breath of God.
Indras dream.
So many paradoxes in spirituality.

However

All I know is that against all odds I am sober, alive, well and in good humour.
I can ask for nothing more and it is my choice to believe that through a Higher Power I am in this state.

I am as I said happy for you to believe whatever you wish to believe.
Whatever turns you on, whatever works for you.

Regards Chris