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Old 02-02-2010, 08:54 PM   #33
Majorion
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Default Re: New Wilcock Interview

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Originally Posted by trainedobserver View Post
Who do I think are giving honest efforts even though I may not agree with them on all points? Richard Dolan, Stanton Friedman, David Jacobs, Karla Turner, John Mack, Jacques Vallee ...and there are many others.
Sounds like quite the elite group there, but other than selling books, attending conferences, doing interviews, and "scrutinizing" others in the same field, there is nothing that differentiates these people from the same argument you're making against the others like Wilcock, Greer, etc...

Matter of fact, if anyone is a disinfo agent, it could easily be argued and counter pointed that those same set of characters you mentioned above are the actual agents. Most or all of them have worked for the government, Friedman openly gloats about the number of places he's worked on classified projects, Vallee was involved with DARPA, Jacobs is a Uni-folk man pushing the 'alien threat' agenda with research only into any cases that involve a 'threatening' experience, and Dolan; while I think hes great and his book National Security State vol.1 is most certainly noteworthy, he himself has also been involved with Camelot and aligned with the same people you implicate are pushing disinformation.

Let me just say that I fully understand your appeal to credibility and totally relate, but there are two sides to every coin, and there isn't a post on the world wide web that can simplify and generalize the complex issues we face and continue to face on the ufology front. Not even ufowatchdog, who seem to think the world operates only in black or white.

My opinion is there has been evidence for multiple phenomena within the framework of 'ufos', the problem is every person wants his/her 'one explanation' for the entire phenomenon to be the right one. Vallee and Hynek explain it as interdimensional, Friedman is a classic Roswell proponent/greys-occupy-saucers from zeti reticuli, and then you have the Hopkins and similar mindsets focusing only on abductions. I'm no fan of Dan Burisch and never have been, but what makes his time-traveler explanation any less plausible than those with other theories.

Even the people who seem to possess the most honesty and credibility can hardly agree on anything, does that mean some or all of them are disinfo agents.

One thing I do agree with you, is a lot of people are indeed seeking attention, their fifteen minutes of fame, and they do want to make money off this, there a lot of deluded people and I am in no way denying 'that part' of what you're saying. But strictly in the context disinformation, Vallee or Friedman could easily be disinformation, and keep in mind that good people are often compromised, I happen to think this was the case with Greer after his disclosure project didn't quite make the headlines he was hoping for, and then he got older and started to think of just himself.

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