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Originally Posted by Majorion
Yeah, like what kind of unsettling, reptoids having us for dinner? 
I'm interested to know if there is anyone you 'don't' consider a disinformation agent in these fields, trainedobserver...
I'm gonna bust a gut if you say Jim Sparks.  |
I don't place a lot of weight on tales of 'reptilians' or 'reptoids' myself.
And I think I've miscommunicated. I don't think any of the people listed are actual governmental 'disinformation' agents. The only two I know of for sure worked for the government, since they confessed, is Richard Doty and William Moore. With the exception of Dean I think the rest are opportunistic con-men who don't believe a thing they are saying mixed in with some who are misinformed and deluded who cannot differentiate between fantasy and reality. While there is a documented history of government infiltration and control of UFO study groups and the dissemination of misinformation and disinformation by them at this point in time I don't think it is any longer necessary. Why should they bother? The UFO community readily embraces proven frauds and hoaxers with open arms and fails to give alleged informants and whistle blowers the scrutiny one would give someone trying to sell you a used car!
While Jim Sparks has an interesting story and I've listened to him tell it several times, I have never read his book. I do think a great deal of his story matches up with other abductee/experiencers unlike say the Rutter/Reed story for example. But that really doesn't mean anything. Practically all elements of his story existed elsewhere beforehand. I don't by any means take what any abductee/experiencer/contactee says at face value but I think they are worth listening to and considering especially when patterns are evident.
Who do I think are giving honest efforts even though I may not agree with them on all points? Richard Dolan, Stanton Friedman, David Jacobs, Karla Turner, John Mack, Jacques Vallee ...and there are many others.
Good books I'd recommend.
- UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Coverup, 1941-1973 by Richard M. Dolan
- UFOs and the National Security State: The Cover-Up Exposed, 1973-1991 by Richard M. Dolan
- Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults by Jacques Vallee
- REVELATIONS: Alien Contact and Human Deception by Jacques Vallee
- CONFRONTATIONS: A Scientists Search for Alien Contact by Jacques Vallee
- DIMENSIONS: A Casebook of Alien Contact by Jacques Vallee
- UFOs, the Secret History: by Michael Hesemann
"Yeah, like what kind of unsettling ..." The kind of unsettling that causes whoever encounters the real truth to agree that it should never be told to the public. The kind of unsettling that says everything you think you know is framed by an invisible incomprehensible truth you cannot readily perceive and may never fully realize. It is the kind of unsettling that causes the mind to retreat, reject, and obfuscate the truth from even itself. Weirdness and strangeness of the highest order. ...or something like that.
The badly written science fiction that many of the alleged whistle blowers peddle is actually recycled B-Movies and T.V. science fiction plots. I surprised more people don't call them on it.