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Old 09-20-2008, 08:46 PM   #39
100thmonkey
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Default Re: What was Jesus then?

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Originally Posted by Richard T View Post
...Hell meant <world of the dead> and not a sea of eternal fire.

Man is captive of the world of the dead, therefore, man is a walking dead. That is what he must be saved from.

If not, then he will have to move on and continue his evolution on another planet.
Richard, I think you are closest to my own perspectives here, although you seem to have more of an in depth understanding of it.

On the point of what man 'must' be saved from though... I still don't think it's 'necessary', just nicer.
I do think it is a default of existence however.

I see our spirit as like a Yo-Yo, coming from the One, being placed under layers and layers of ignorance (becoming as the 'walking dead' as you say), yet inevitably, unstoppably, returning through those layers to the One, by virtue of Experience (that thing the One most desires).

It's an ingenious and foolproof method of the One-ness experiencing itself, sending a part of itself out there and knowing it will boomerang back after it's mission is accomplished. We can't mess it up if we wanted to.

Even if someobody purposely tries to be as 'evil' as possible, or is naturally as lost in selfish darkness as anyone possibly could be, that's still just an experience, for that lifetime.
Our higher self (that part of the Oneness sent away from itself) will take the experience on board and learn from it. The Oneness desires such things, therefore we do too. The darkness needs to be explored as much as the light.


Experience need not be sought by us though, it just happens as a natural part of life.
Our physical senses pick it up all the time. We live it every day. Things happen to us as part of living, and by nature we can't help but learn from those experiences, whether we are seeking or not.

So, awareness comes by default.

Eventually we'll reach a point of curiosity though, in this life or the next (or the next, etc.) and try to accelerate the process.
Then we are Seekers, and so here we are... ...looking to take the next step.

Ultimately we realise that love is the path upwards, hate is the path downwards, and make our decisions from there. Love is nicer, and I think the recognition of that is what we call our conscience. It's the signpost in the darkness that points the way. That's why I say we don't need Jesus to point the way, we already have the internal compass.

I don't think it matters if we miss the boat on the next ascension wave through the galaxy, or whatever, though.
It'd be kind of a shame, seeing as it's so close and all, but we'll catch one eventually, in another millenium, or another galaxy.

We've got eternity to figure it all out, and ultimately there's nothing to fear.
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