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Originally Posted by Roman195
Cliff High
"To be clear. I did not hire any detective to investigate Bill Deagle. I have never been privy to any personal information about Bill Deagle, nor any information which is not publicly available on the internet. My first contact with Bill Deagle (by phone) was so negatively affecting of the state of my ki that I began my own research into Bill Deagle by the simple expedient of Google. Please note…I do my own research. I did not hire anyone and then ‘set them’ onto Deagle with orders to find ‘stuff that could be used against Deagle”. This is a lie. ********. Let me state that again. The characterizations written by Bill Ryan are false, and offensive.
In the investigation that I did perform with Google, the second query that I used was “Dr + Bill + Deagle + fraud”. The results led me directly to the information that I passed on to Bill Ryan that he has misunderstood. "
The above is a quote from Cliff High's original thread.
I find it hard to discern how just a Google search would get anyone on the path to the truth without trying other search engines. Google is not the god of search engines and the results of a search on Google without trying any of the other search engines in not a path to enlightenment, in my opinion.
For example:
http://www.infowars.com/google-and-b...-edmonds-blog/
“Google has worked closely with the governments of the U.S., the U.K., Germany, Japan, and most notoriously China to censor content on its websites. Google works directly with China to filter search results on the Google Chinese search engine concerning the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, sites supporting the independence movements of Tibet and Taiwan or the Falun Gong movement, and other information considered embarrassing or harmful to China’s totalitarian slave masters.”
The above being a quote from the article of the link listed above.
So Cliff put that in your pipe and smoke it!
I’m offended more by your assault on Bill Ryan’s character than anything else. Kerry and Bill are, in my opinion, historians that try to get history as it’s given to them and letting the readers discern for themselves.
I can go on with my assault on your character, but at this time I choose not to because there are more important things to worry about. Man, you got to rein that ego in, it will get you into trouble.
Can you explain this woo-jo concept again to me. I to have had my experiences in Do-jos, but this woo-jo concept seems like some sort of trap to me.
In unity,
Roman
“Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”
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Roman,
Not sure just who you are directing your post to but if it's me, thank you for your input and observation in this matter.
The quote of Clif is accurate. Your opinion of Google and assumption that Clif used only Google for his research are both 'your opinion' and apparently lack any knowledge of Clif's backgound or knowledge. There are multiple search/decision engines/methodolgies available which can turn up large amounts of data on just about any subject/topic/person/etc. Knowing that Clif has been involved with computer technology (hueristics, tele-communications, human factors engineering to name a few) as well as developing sophisticated internet data gathering systems such as his Web Bot Project would indicate that he could probably find whatever he wanted without using Google. In this case, the use of Google, which most casual to intermediate internet consumers would use, turned up very interesting data which anybody could find.
The reference you use regarding the data about government use of Google is a bit lost on me...not sure what your point is, especially about Clif taking a toke on it, and would appreciate clarification which I thank you for in advance!
Your offence at the serious questioning regarding what you refer to as an 'assault on Bills character' is something you should examine. Being offended is a part of life and in my experience reveals issues that one has within one's self that are yet to be dealt with and resolved. They are also usually the result of emotional stagnation which can be difficult to overcome.
Once again, there is a complete lack of addressing the core/key issues that have been raised regarding the conduct of Bill in this matter...and to reiterate so as to be clear, the issue is Deagle's credibility, Bill's unwavering support in the face of hard and alarming data regarding Deagle's claims (NOT HIS FINANCES!) and the way in which Bill has conducted himself in this matter. Throw in the developing pattern of whistleblower fallout over the last year and that translates into wanting to know more about what I and many others here have supported over the years as there seems to be some serious issues at PC/PA.
Will any of you who defend these actions ever address the questions posed? Or will you just blather on about how much you admire and love Bill & Kerry?
Where's the objective, non-biased inquiry? Why get mad at the pursuit of the truth?
Waiting on honest discussion based on facts, not blind emotional stances.
Peace,
YinYangMind