[YinYangMind]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Actually, what happened was that Clif High used information gained by someone who got access to Dr Deagle's personal bank account, which he found via a Google search, rather than by hiring a PI.

That's my understanding of the sequence of events.

Seashore, where did your 'understanding' come from? This information while interesting doesn't seem to add to the substance of the issue.

Highly curious considering the following:

Here's Bill's first 'public' response to the original question which prompted Clif's 'Open Letter':

“As best we understand, Clif High set a PI [Private Investigator] on Deagle's bank account without Deagle's knowledge or consent, with an instruction to look for something that could be used against him.

The PI found some income that he could not account for and Clif therefore assumed that he must be a paid agent.

It's an understatement to say that this is very dumb of Clif, who is normally a bright guy. If anyone looked in to my bank account, or yours, or anyone's, they would find things they didn't understand. I don't even understand my own bank statements sometimes."

His latest statement does not include the original information in his reply to Clif's letter on 12/15 about getting an email directly from Clif about the alledged PI/Financial information:

"What I'd called a PI [Private Investigator] was described in the original e-mail (sent to me on 14 April) by Clif as a "researcher/detective". This person was NOT hired by him. My mistake, and I'm happy to correct that."

Questions come to mind on this:

1. Bill states that the information came from an 'original e-mail from Clif on April 14' and now the issue surfaces 8 months later???

2. Bill only mentions this supposed e-mail once but never produces it as evidence of his (bill's) position...why?

3. Bill admits that his original claim of Clif hiring the PI to investigate Deagle's finances was incorrect, yet continues with the probing of Deagle's finances by Clif as an issue of integrity and slander on Clif's part...which is it Bill???

4. Who is this mystery person that dug up financial information on Deagle that was falsely attributed to Clif, is it true and relevant (regardless of consent)?

5. Clif's open letter states very clearly the significant problems he has with Deagle including supporting details as to why Deagle's inside information, experience, knowledge, observations & prognostications are questionable at best. Why doesn't Bill address these as he has had to do with Burish and the rest?

6. If Bill can't make sense out of his own bank account/statement, why should we trust his interpretation of esoteric, scientific, cosmic, conscious and spiritual matters?


Then, Bill's latest reply continues with:

- Clif's 'financial inquiry improprieties'

- maintains his position that Clif did something wrong,

- completly ignores the very detailed and articulate substantive issues Clif raises regarding Deagle's information which DO NOT INCLUDE FINANCES but specifically deal with the information B&K get from Deagle,

- ignores the multitude of posts from members here regarding their own issues/concerns about Deagle including detailed and informative posts/questions from myself and skjted,

- continues with his undaunting support of Deagle as a 'good man with a good heart' with a feel good story,

- then, arrogantly, suggests that Clif should 'focus on his own prognostications and to respect data revealed by other whistleblowers without going out of his way to denigrate them publicly,' the last part of which Camelot should be doing more of themselves which possibly could mitigate the strange and curious fueds, exits and excuses/ass coverings that B&K have been doing more of the last 6 months than anything else.

Gotta say, I've had enough of the obfuscation from Bill on this. Coupled with the disasters of Burish, Deagle, Deacon, Jane, et al, and the wealth of much better and professional investigative/whistleblowing/research/interviews that are available, it's time for this mind to move along and not waste precious focus and energy on what once was Camelot but now is sadly 'CameNot.'

You will know them by their words and judge them by their actions...

Peace,

YinYangMind