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SynchrOMicity · 09-20-2008, 06:37 PM

Very interesting!
Maybe Steven only understands part of what is going on!
Tall grey short grey , fat grey ,white greys, good grey,bad grey,over eighty varieties.
Please check out Phil Snyder.
Originally Posted by clarkkent
1. if greys are extremely evolved and technologically advanced, why go to all the trouble to abduct someone when they could easily snag a few million hair samples take them back to the ship/or planet and have an army of humans to experiment on to their hearts content. they could come here get it and we'd never see them again, most likely without much fuss.
NQuote:Perhaps the 'soul' and/or collected experience is part of the issue? Simple cloning may not be what they are after...

1.They need to repair their emotional body, which was damaged a long time ago, you can be very intelligent and not feel love. DNA., and Soul has every thing to do with it.
1a Time is a illusion, Past, present and future are one. Linear time as we conceptualize it, based on the movement of planets, in our solar system is just that, a concept.
Perhaps as Dan Burish suggests, they were trying to change a timeline.
Not to find a cure but to prevent a possible time line, which caused the problems?
Also take into consideration multi dimensional possibilities.

2. why would they need to work with our scientists if theyre 45,000 years ahead of us? thats like us going back in time to build a nuclear fusion reactor with a neanderthal.
2. See 1a. Timeline, Did they plan on being caught?
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3.if we have a treaty with them for technology, why are we shooting down UFO's with scalar technology to back engineer them? why are we grilling the live ET captures for info as clifford stone says?
3. Treaty with one group or possibly two, Tall and one of the short variety.
There agenda and our governments. Not a treaty with all species, lots of technology out there. Shoot em down, what can we steal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awGOXaAA0Ts
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4. if they're from the future why would they bother to come to the 20th century when we'd be more technologically a threat than say 10,000 bc or 300 AD? why bother with treaties at all?
4.See 1a again please.
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5. why are the "good guys" the "Nordics", aka our future selves blonde haired and blue eyed? is that the best of the best genetic stock? is chinese, african, latino inferior? after 52,000 years did we decide to eliminate them? does that sound like a "good" future, or does it sound like Hitler's master race? doesnt that sound like something Nazi's brought here in the 40's and 50's and in the service of the shadow gov/black ops might like us to think?
5. Aka our future selves? Nordic, good guys? Not sure about this one, are you referring to pleiadian? And, are all of any races, all good?
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6. assuming the "greys" are not our military's genetic creations, that means they are ET's interfering with our development. why would other ET's watching us allow them to do so? it would be like us watching and observing animals in a zoo and some crazy guy goes into the monkey cage and starts grabbing the chimps and screwing with them-why would the zookeepers allow this? they wouldnt.
6. Some varieties of greys are thought to be Aninuki, Creations like slaves, servants. The Aninuki have a rich history of test tubin it, on this planet, along with others. Sumerian history, and even mentioned in the Old Testament, bible, the Anuk’s.
Who are the Zoo keepers?
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7.assume for a moment that very very highly technologically and spiritually evolved beings watch many planets such as ours and many others (as i believe), and we have most likely been quarratined here until we can act peacfully, isnt it safe to assume other races have been watched and put under these same guidlines? in other words how can hostile beings be here experimenting on us? why would they be allowed to leave their biosphere?
7.Not all have been Quarantined, there are many walk ins, light workers and being here to help in ascension of this planet. Some have been, Quarantined. Plus we have been pretty good at killing each other! And trashing our planet.Also consider Pirius’s answer.
I think we've been quarantined more because we're not grown up enough to take part in the "big boys" games out there in the universe. Imagine a five year old running onto the field of a professional football game. There's a reason the crowd is kept behind a fence. If the kid wants to join the game, he'll have to grow older, train, become a professional player and then is allowed. Positive ETs would want us to stay here to not get clobbered out there, and negative ETs want us to stay to keep us in inside the cattle ranch.
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8. if the "nordics" kicked the "greys" out of there system or reptillians were "dumped" here as many say, wouldnt those higher beings or "nordics" be directly responsible for much of our pain and misery? to do a thing consciously and knowingly? thats a high karmic price to pay for such evolved enlightened beings. if a 6th grade teacher kicks a disruptive student out of class and into the kindergarten class next door, and that same student starts to kick the crap out of the kindergartners and manipulate them, isnt the teacher responsible dont you think the teacher would send the kid firstly to the principle's office where a more powerful person is in charge of the bad 6th grader?
8. I would say there has been some tinkering, with the human race, and manipulation. Consider fallen one’s , giants, and technologies springing up, seemingly out of nowhere.
And I would say yes Karma is universal! Also consider Nik’s #8 again please.

But in any case. One answer that I can offer is that everything serves a purpose in the universe. 'Good' is just a polar opposite of 'bad', one cannot exist without the other. Even that which we consider 'bad' can serve a beneficial role - just as something that we consider 'good' can serve a harmful role. Think about it - the reptilian and gray influence also poses a challenge from which humanity can emerge stronger and more knowledgeable.
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9. who benefits from a paranoid "alien agenda" scenario?
9. Everyone wants to understand, at some level what the true history of the human race is.
If humanity really knew what has been hidden from them, it would empower them to change everything! So who is benefiting, anyone who does not want us to wake up, to who we really are, spiritually.

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10. is it a coincidence that the mass reporting of "abduction phenomena" (not contactees) has been reported after roswell (perhaps the first time the military could back engineer the technology) and that we brought nazi eugenics/ space program scientists over here and that theyve hijacked the ET phenomena to covertly continue their warped agenda?
10 a.Yes it is!
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10.b isnt it possible that the shadow government/black ops have enough sophisticated tech to implement "channeled" messages to inherently psychic people, and that much can damage can be done through mind control/ psychotronics to manipulate the UFO community?
10.b Sure, but does that do away with our interconnectedness to the rest of the universe?
Perhaps this is where discernment comes in.
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11. doesnt the lack of discussion concerning PLF"S (prgrammed life forms) among the UFO community suggest that maybe the shadow government wants it that way?
11. Perhaps people are just not ready to believe there president could be a clone or robotic!! I would say the technology has been around a very long time, in fact just look how some so called humans act, no love in em.

We do need to keep our eye’s on the ball, understanding, remembering and healing is a major part of bringing in LOVE.

09-20-2008, 06:37 PM	#27
SynchrOMicity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: S.KY Foothills of the smokey's on a big lake,110 miles from any major city in a vortex Posts: 53	Re: common sense question about "greys" and "nordics" Very interesting! Maybe Steven only understands part of what is going on! Tall grey short grey , fat grey ,white greys, good grey,bad grey,over eighty varieties. Please check out Phil Snyder. Originally Posted by clarkkent 1. if greys are extremely evolved and technologically advanced, why go to all the trouble to abduct someone when they could easily snag a few million hair samples take them back to the ship/or planet and have an army of humans to experiment on to their hearts content. they could come here get it and we'd never see them again, most likely without much fuss. NQuote:Perhaps the 'soul' and/or collected experience is part of the issue? Simple cloning may not be what they are after... 1.They need to repair their emotional body, which was damaged a long time ago, you can be very intelligent and not feel love. DNA., and Soul has every thing to do with it. 1a Time is a illusion, Past, present and future are one. Linear time as we conceptualize it, based on the movement of planets, in our solar system is just that, a concept. Perhaps as Dan Burish suggests, they were trying to change a timeline. Not to find a cure but to prevent a possible time line, which caused the problems? Also take into consideration multi dimensional possibilities. 2. why would they need to work with our scientists if theyre 45,000 years ahead of us? thats like us going back in time to build a nuclear fusion reactor with a neanderthal. 2. See 1a. Timeline, Did they plan on being caught? Quote: 3.if we have a treaty with them for technology, why are we shooting down UFO's with scalar technology to back engineer them? why are we grilling the live ET captures for info as clifford stone says? 3. Treaty with one group or possibly two, Tall and one of the short variety. There agenda and our governments. Not a treaty with all species, lots of technology out there. Shoot em down, what can we steal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awGOXaAA0Ts Quote: 4. if they're from the future why would they bother to come to the 20th century when we'd be more technologically a threat than say 10,000 bc or 300 AD? why bother with treaties at all? 4.See 1a again please. Quote: 5. why are the "good guys" the "Nordics", aka our future selves blonde haired and blue eyed? is that the best of the best genetic stock? is chinese, african, latino inferior? after 52,000 years did we decide to eliminate them? does that sound like a "good" future, or does it sound like Hitler's master race? doesnt that sound like something Nazi's brought here in the 40's and 50's and in the service of the shadow gov/black ops might like us to think? 5. Aka our future selves? Nordic, good guys? Not sure about this one, are you referring to pleiadian? And, are all of any races, all good? Quote: 6. assuming the "greys" are not our military's genetic creations, that means they are ET's interfering with our development. why would other ET's watching us allow them to do so? it would be like us watching and observing animals in a zoo and some crazy guy goes into the monkey cage and starts grabbing the chimps and screwing with them-why would the zookeepers allow this? they wouldnt. 6. Some varieties of greys are thought to be Aninuki, Creations like slaves, servants. The Aninuki have a rich history of test tubin it, on this planet, along with others. Sumerian history, and even mentioned in the Old Testament, bible, the Anuk’s. Who are the Zoo keepers? Quote: 7.assume for a moment that very very highly technologically and spiritually evolved beings watch many planets such as ours and many others (as i believe), and we have most likely been quarratined here until we can act peacfully, isnt it safe to assume other races have been watched and put under these same guidlines? in other words how can hostile beings be here experimenting on us? why would they be allowed to leave their biosphere? 7.Not all have been Quarantined, there are many walk ins, light workers and being here to help in ascension of this planet. Some have been, Quarantined. Plus we have been pretty good at killing each other! And trashing our planet.Also consider Pirius’s answer. I think we've been quarantined more because we're not grown up enough to take part in the "big boys" games out there in the universe. Imagine a five year old running onto the field of a professional football game. There's a reason the crowd is kept behind a fence. If the kid wants to join the game, he'll have to grow older, train, become a professional player and then is allowed. Positive ETs would want us to stay here to not get clobbered out there, and negative ETs want us to stay to keep us in inside the cattle ranch. Quote: 8. if the "nordics" kicked the "greys" out of there system or reptillians were "dumped" here as many say, wouldnt those higher beings or "nordics" be directly responsible for much of our pain and misery? to do a thing consciously and knowingly? thats a high karmic price to pay for such evolved enlightened beings. if a 6th grade teacher kicks a disruptive student out of class and into the kindergarten class next door, and that same student starts to kick the crap out of the kindergartners and manipulate them, isnt the teacher responsible dont you think the teacher would send the kid firstly to the principle's office where a more powerful person is in charge of the bad 6th grader? 8. I would say there has been some tinkering, with the human race, and manipulation. Consider fallen one’s , giants, and technologies springing up, seemingly out of nowhere. And I would say yes Karma is universal! Also consider Nik’s #8 again please. But in any case. One answer that I can offer is that everything serves a purpose in the universe. 'Good' is just a polar opposite of 'bad', one cannot exist without the other. Even that which we consider 'bad' can serve a beneficial role - just as something that we consider 'good' can serve a harmful role. Think about it - the reptilian and gray influence also poses a challenge from which humanity can emerge stronger and more knowledgeable. Quote: 9. who benefits from a paranoid "alien agenda" scenario? 9. Everyone wants to understand, at some level what the true history of the human race is. If humanity really knew what has been hidden from them, it would empower them to change everything! So who is benefiting, anyone who does not want us to wake up, to who we really are, spiritually. Quote: 10. is it a coincidence that the mass reporting of "abduction phenomena" (not contactees) has been reported after roswell (perhaps the first time the military could back engineer the technology) and that we brought nazi eugenics/ space program scientists over here and that theyve hijacked the ET phenomena to covertly continue their warped agenda? 10 a.Yes it is! Quote: 10.b isnt it possible that the shadow government/black ops have enough sophisticated tech to implement "channeled" messages to inherently psychic people, and that much can damage can be done through mind control/ psychotronics to manipulate the UFO community? 10.b Sure, but does that do away with our interconnectedness to the rest of the universe? Perhaps this is where discernment comes in. Quote: 11. doesnt the lack of discussion concerning PLF"S (prgrammed life forms) among the UFO community suggest that maybe the shadow government wants it that way? 11. Perhaps people are just not ready to believe there president could be a clone or robotic!! I would say the technology has been around a very long time, in fact just look how some so called humans act, no love in em. We do need to keep our eye’s on the ball, understanding, remembering and healing is a major part of bringing in LOVE.