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Old 09-20-2008, 06:25 PM   #31
8080028
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Default Re: Important Question for George Greene

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Originally Posted by Operator View Post
Well here's a new angle we seem to forget ...

Taxmaster was talking about 'abuse' by people of the social security systems. Well he's got a point of course but there's another tendency opposing this ...
We consider someone who's not working at least 8 hours a day as not fully contributing to society ...

I've heard that women's emancipation was orchestrated as well.

1. They have more workforce to tax
2. kids stay longer on school or other institutions so they can be more indoctrinated

Where do we get our perception from about the 8 hours a day anyway ?

So, the new paradigm should be about equal load, sharing stuff and do what's NEEDED !

E.g. if there's free energy etc. etc. it might be sufficient to do 4 hours a day and spend a lot more time with your kids.
Some consider this as WASTING time .... doing less important stuff.

The only reason we're encouraged to work more, longer and at higher age is to get more MONEY rotating through the machine !
Now that is clearly enslavement !

Let's not police ourselves and others too much ...

Cheers
Right on,
The 8 hour day comes from the industrial revolution when the machine really started to be built. The week was organised into what we know as the normal working week. Closing time in pubs also comes from the same basic source, for the info of fellow lovers of beer, making sure people turned up for work in the morning. The point being the imposition of this schedule happened a few generations ago, so we don't now remember it and accept it as the norm. And further, we scorn people who are not productive.
We need to be productive to earn, to live, thats our position. However, as time goes on economies of scale should kick in to make the stuff we buy cheaper. I'm referring to the fact that when a product has been manufactured and sold for a while the manufacturer coups back the tooling cost, the start up cost of producing the product. The factory and machines etc having been paid for now means the cost of the product should come down. But does that ever happen? We keep paying, costs go up. We keep paying, we keep being told times are hard and the market is competitive and margins are short etc. Meanwhile those at the top, the very top, make outrageous sums of money. Do they work 8 hours?
Operator you make a great point about womens lib. I'm all for everyone being allowed to do what they like as long as it does no harm so as far as women working I'm not saying they shouldn't. Nowadays though the financial pressure to work and the stigma attached to not working is massive. And yes, a result of this is that childcare is being taken care of by well-meaning but perhaps, in light of what way we now see the powers that be are operating, not so benign child care facilities, then off to be indoctrinated in school. It seems to be very bad in the US as regards schooling techniques and things like corporate sponsorship of books etc, complete with plenty ads.
On the topic of children and how they are being treated and what they are exposed to there is a quote by the creator of Ren and Stimpy, the cartoon,(On the impact of Ren and Stimpy): I think we are destroying the minds of America, and that's been one of my lifelong ambitions.
Nice.
Also, there's a David Icke video where he talks about getting into i think the Grand Temple of the masons in London sort of by accident one day, and he had a wander around. He has photos of himself in there, and there were photos and dedications on the wall to various important masons who had visited. One of these was Walt Disney. Strange eh? Stranger was the display around his portrait picture, a circle of cartoon characters in a ring around his head, 12 of them.

I've been through Jordan Maxwell's work extensively and also Michael Tsarion and for anyone who doesn't know, the number 12 does not turn up on monuments and portraits by chance, there is a lot going on there.

Anyway, the point is as each generation passes through the machine of indoctrination and pressure to work and succeed, like everyone else, the connection to what way things were before erodes. The industrial revolution was not that long ago, look at how different the world and society are! totally different.
I was in Australia for a year and stayed up in the Norther Territory for a few months. The Aboriginals are a perfect example of what happens when people who just are not capable of making it in 'society' are bulldozered over by it.
Their culture doesn't know what an 8 hour day is, you don't need to. When its bright its morning time, when it gets dark its nighttime. If you have something you need to do during the day, do it. If you don't, relax. the whole world used to be like that.
It's when our 'society' that we are conditioned that we have to serve comes into contact with these people that they get destroyed. The Aboriginals have existed just fine for thousands of years in Australia. They are now in really bad shape as a result of contact with the settlers. Drug and alcohol abuse are huge, and there is despair in the communities. The racism against them is outrageous, and a lot of it is 'lazy bastards, they won't work'. Why should they? They do their own thing.

Overall, the scale of conditioning of the entire çivilised' world is off the chart. Before we knock people for not contributing to society, we need to properly examine what society is in its current form. Is it worth serving oor is it worth changing to be more appealing to humanity. Just as a footnote I was spending some time with my cousin and her family a few weeks ago and one of the things my cousin said when talking about her two little girls was that she had to raise them tough, because the world was hard and tough and pussycats can't survive. I think that that should not be the attitude we are forced to have. The world is beautiful and wonderous and we should not be afraid of it.

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