[Kulapops]

Aha ! I just reread your post properly bangzoom and see that I am clearly barking up the wrong tree. Sorry. The contradiction is not about some seeing it and some not, but about Mr X's two different accounts. Can't help you there either. Maybe you could post your question on Bill Ryan's thread... he has one going for questions. Seems like a perfectly reasonable one to me.

I just watched, 'What the Bleep' yesterday. Very good. Totally recommend it.

In it they recount the story of the first americans being unable to see the approaching spanish ships because they were totally outside their realm of experience.

After noticing only the ripples on the water that the ships made, the shaman watched the ocean for several days. Finally , when he was able to see the ships, he told everyone else and then , they were able to see them too.

So that may be your logical explanation. No cloaking devices required, just a certain level of conscious awareness. Maybe your friends were not able to notice at the time, just like those american natives...

Just a thought,

Best wishes,

enjoy the site !

K