[TheChosen]

I already posted in the Bill Ryan thread what I think of his technology and why it appears to be wrong sometimes..

Apart from his webbot I love listening to his interviews cause he is an extremely well informed person, well read and with a strong scientific background.. which really shows into his analysis skills. Since I share a scientific background and strong computer skills I can really understand the details of what he is speaking about.. the same goes for the physics involved.

I liked Bill Deagle to a point but some of his claims are clearly way off from any scientific standpoint as Cliff suggested (I mean continents moving few kilometers per day? Thousands of underground cities??). Sure Bill Deagle may have worked for the black projects.. but he was only a physician there. He may understand biology but he sucks at technology and physics.. and even more at predicting stuff. Bill seems to defend Deagle because he is sure about his credentials.. but what he seems to forget is that doesn't make him a good predictor of the future.

As far as the 2012 extreme climatic change... I don't see Cliff's careful analysis as being fear-mongering. It has happened before, many times (in the presence of much more advanced humans/ETs/Wanderers) and I think its quite self-centric if not outright egoistic to completely blow off this possibility of happening again just because this time we are difference and we 'seem' to understand spirituality better than the beings in Atlantis and Lemuria. As much as I'd like to believe David Wilcock that humanity is not negative enough to attract such a 'disaster'... I just can't .. cause humanity is not all that great in the eyes of many ETs who are actively trying to persuade the higher forces that humanity does not deserve this planet.. and things are really more around the 50/50 .. rather than any kind of certainty either way.

I've noticed Bill & Kerry have started to outright avoid presenting information of cataclysmical nature, even though the probability may be quite high as far as I've seen. Spirituallity doesn't mean humanity is invulnerable to a mass death scenario.. Whole planets have been destroyed in the past.. and the only certainty so far has been that planet Earth will survive, humanity is just a flea that will get stomped if it doesn't change its ways very soon. For all we know all the wanderers that have come here are only to give humanity a fighting chance.. maybe a very small one .. and for those 5% that manage to live through, to help with re-creating the human civilization in the 4th density.. the rest may help through the etheric/astral planes once they die. I've already been told where I should be for the changes and there is even a small group that formed around this place out of pure synchronicity.. so in my opinion this possibility SHOULD NOT be so easily dismissed as Bill & Kerry have been playing it down. It is not fear-mongering .. just being prepared for all possibilities with high probabilities.. and judging from all the information we have so far.. the probabilities run high. I mean the poles are already moving 64km/year and accelerating .. how long can we think that 'love and light' will save us from the hard physics involving electro-magnetism?

My own view pretty much sides with Astralwalker's , Cliff and Patrick Geryl ... however I still believe humanity has a chance (as I've been repeatedly told in the Astral.. everything would be underwater already if the 'wanderers' were not here).. but and thats a big but.. I have yet to see one single action in the daily life that would say humanity is changing.. on the contrary it seems to be heading right over the high cliff .. no pun intended lol