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sjkted · 01-04-2010, 07:30 AM

Hi Bill,

I have been following your work from the beginning and have referred many people to your site. I support the mission statement of Camelot and that is why I am writing to you today as a critic.

First of all, I commend you for keeping an open forum where people can freely ask you questions and I would like to state that I have no doubt that both you and Kerry are perfectly upfront about who you are and where you are coming from, and I appreciate that. Further, I can't think of a single interview you have aired where I think that the whistleblower is intentionally misleading your audience.

I understand what you are saying about protecting whistleblowers. I realize some of these people may be jeopordazing their career or putting themselves in personal danger by disclosing information to you. My concern is on discussing the facts and details rather than attacking the personalities involved.

I have heard that one strategy by TPTB to prevent disclosure is when there is a big incident to intentionally write up a bona fide document on the incident that is filled with disinformation and then give it to a certain number of insiders, whom they know will eventually leak the document. There will then be another document describing the real incident which is then given to a substantially smaller number of people and heavily controlled.

This serves two purposes: (1) TPTB know that if there is a serious incident that some leaks cannot be prevented and that people like us will be researching it and trying to find out what happened. By leaking an official document filled with disinfo, it passifies us into not looking for the real information and convinces us we have found all we are looking for. (2) It causes us to believe a lie which can be used in the future to manipulate anyone who has been briefed by the "disinfo" document.

My point in stating this is that if this is the case, nearly all of your sources would correlate the same information, since they had intentionally been given the disinfo document. They would believe what they were telling you and their documentation would be official. The only way this could be disproven would be by trying to correlate the details with outside sources.

I think that Cliff is on the right path with bringing up the issue of looking up concrete prices and supply and demand in order to research details of underground bases. The way I see Camelot interviews is kind of like I'm a member on a jury. I listen to all of the information, research all of the supporting evidence, make a decision on what is right or wrong and then act on it. In this case, I feel that Bill Deagle is wrong. My question is to you as a member of the jury: in the pursuit of the truth, why is it that you are relying on correlating whistleblower reports instead of interviewing outside subject-expert witnesses to take a look at the details? Why does Mr. Deagle get some much airtime and attention and your trust in his information, when there are some very compelling details that suggest he may not be right? And when you are called on it by someone who is looking at the details, why do you call Cliff an idiot?

My second question is on the ET issue. I realize it is important. I realize that there may be a hidden alien agenda and I tend towards believing this is the case. I've never personally had an ET encounter nor can I say I know anyone who has. In my experience, I see a lot of problems with this world including what's happening with our growing government, the wars in the Middle East, and our dying economy. When I look at this and consider it in a historical context, I come up with two things: the horrific events we have experienced in the past and those that may be coming require both the general support of the people and the belief of the implementers that what they are doing is correct. For example, neither WWI nor WWII would be possible without the support of the people for each country and the armed forces who believe the lie in order to proceed. So, there may be a hidden influence such as the Illuminati or the ET agenda, but it's always us people who are failing to take collective responsibility for our planet and ourselves.

In a practical sense, I ask you beyond a certain point what value the ET agenda information has other than entertainment? I have started a thread on this topic at http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=18802. Considering that part of the mission statement of Avalon is to provide real solutions to the groundcrew, I wonder whether continually discussing the ET issue has any practical benefit and just causes division and triggers some people's victim meme of "I'm just one person/there's nothing I can do/it's out of my hands/I'm not responsible". Could you please comment on this?

Best Regards,

sjkted

01-04-2010, 07:30 AM	#579
sjkted Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: LA County Posts: 361	The Game Plan Hi Bill, I have been following your work from the beginning and have referred many people to your site. I support the mission statement of Camelot and that is why I am writing to you today as a critic. First of all, I commend you for keeping an open forum where people can freely ask you questions and I would like to state that I have no doubt that both you and Kerry are perfectly upfront about who you are and where you are coming from, and I appreciate that. Further, I can't think of a single interview you have aired where I think that the whistleblower is intentionally misleading your audience. I understand what you are saying about protecting whistleblowers. I realize some of these people may be jeopordazing their career or putting themselves in personal danger by disclosing information to you. My concern is on discussing the facts and details rather than attacking the personalities involved. I have heard that one strategy by TPTB to prevent disclosure is when there is a big incident to intentionally write up a bona fide document on the incident that is filled with disinformation and then give it to a certain number of insiders, whom they know will eventually leak the document. There will then be another document describing the real incident which is then given to a substantially smaller number of people and heavily controlled. This serves two purposes: (1) TPTB know that if there is a serious incident that some leaks cannot be prevented and that people like us will be researching it and trying to find out what happened. By leaking an official document filled with disinfo, it passifies us into not looking for the real information and convinces us we have found all we are looking for. (2) It causes us to believe a lie which can be used in the future to manipulate anyone who has been briefed by the "disinfo" document. My point in stating this is that if this is the case, nearly all of your sources would correlate the same information, since they had intentionally been given the disinfo document. They would believe what they were telling you and their documentation would be official. The only way this could be disproven would be by trying to correlate the details with outside sources. I think that Cliff is on the right path with bringing up the issue of looking up concrete prices and supply and demand in order to research details of underground bases. The way I see Camelot interviews is kind of like I'm a member on a jury. I listen to all of the information, research all of the supporting evidence, make a decision on what is right or wrong and then act on it. In this case, I feel that Bill Deagle is wrong. My question is to you as a member of the jury: in the pursuit of the truth, why is it that you are relying on correlating whistleblower reports instead of interviewing outside subject-expert witnesses to take a look at the details? Why does Mr. Deagle get some much airtime and attention and your trust in his information, when there are some very compelling details that suggest he may not be right? And when you are called on it by someone who is looking at the details, why do you call Cliff an idiot? My second question is on the ET issue. I realize it is important. I realize that there may be a hidden alien agenda and I tend towards believing this is the case. I've never personally had an ET encounter nor can I say I know anyone who has. In my experience, I see a lot of problems with this world including what's happening with our growing government, the wars in the Middle East, and our dying economy. When I look at this and consider it in a historical context, I come up with two things: the horrific events we have experienced in the past and those that may be coming require both the general support of the people and the belief of the implementers that what they are doing is correct. For example, neither WWI nor WWII would be possible without the support of the people for each country and the armed forces who believe the lie in order to proceed. So, there may be a hidden influence such as the Illuminati or the ET agenda, but it's always us people who are failing to take collective responsibility for our planet and ourselves. In a practical sense, I ask you beyond a certain point what value the ET agenda information has other than entertainment? I have started a thread on this topic at http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=18802. Considering that part of the mission statement of Avalon is to provide real solutions to the groundcrew, I wonder whether continually discussing the ET issue has any practical benefit and just causes division and triggers some people's victim meme of "I'm just one person/there's nothing I can do/it's out of my hands/I'm not responsible". Could you please comment on this? Best Regards, sjkted