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Old 12-31-2009, 01:59 PM   #152
Carol
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Default Re: Cliff High view on Bill Ryans accusations

I would like to remind everyone here that Kerry does not believe in banning and is for total transparency. The exceptions being posting porn and threatening another member which were instant bans. For the past year no one was banned until recently. Revealing the truth was what this forum was based on. Bill was not threatened and appeared not to have made a complaint. So why the ban? Francie shared an email, not a PM. If it were a PM on this forum... then a ban is appropriate. However, there is a big difference with this particular situation because she was exposing the truth about an unsolicited email. Bill took a risk but did not have her prior agreement for confidentiality. Bill is also quite capable of standing up for himself. I have both watched and read where Bill attacked people I respect, even resorting to calling them names and certainly don't expect to see him banned. I would hope that rather then becoming entrenched in an unfair ban, consideration is given in the broadest perspective here as to the intention of what Bill and Kerry wanted when setting up this forum.

The following is a true story. There was a member of a spiritual zendo residence that made others uncomfortable. The others conspired to get rid of this member and the member became so uncomfortable that he left willingly. However, the spiritual leader went to the member who left and asked him to return. The member said no, so the spiritual leader told him he would even pay him to return which he then did. The moral of the story was that this member who others didn't like was a trigger for their egos and also an opportunity for them to work through their own unresolved ego issues. Francie did NOT do anything wrong but it seems others think she did. Yet even if she had.. it still is not worth a full out permanent ban. Why so harsh?
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