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always · 12-30-2009, 12:11 AM

I thought the interview was excellent. Because the material is new to many people, they may not be relating to it as well, but it you listen to the end I think you gain a new perspective as far as what is going on in the world.

Anyway...

I want to quote from a part of the interview where Miriam talks about certain people preventing the Hopi and Mayan from coming together in April, 2009, then add some additional internet material as background. Let me know what you think?

Beginning at 56:18 Min. into Miriam's Dec. 24th interview with Kerry Cassidy on "Camelot Radio" is the following http://projectcamelot.org/2009-Dec-2...m_Delicado.mp3:

MIRIAM: ...The Hopis and the Mayans tried to contact each other during that event in April ["Gathering of the Ancestors", April, 2009] and the organizers of that event and the Hopi people that involved themselves publicly wih that event; from the Water Clan specifically, did not allow for that meeting to take place between the Traditional Leadership... ...

...all of those [Hopi] Tranditional Kiva Leaders and Chiefs and Representatives came together and made a decision collectively as they do in tradition, and said "No", they were not going to participate, but when they tried to reach the Mayans in that event, they couldn't even get the phone number to the head of the Mayan Council in order to have that conversation. THey were physically stopped. ...

At one point a Hopi Elder went to Tuba City during that event and tried to speak to the head of the Mayan council on his own. And he was told by the organizer that he could not and would not be allowed to speak to anyone from South America, period... No Hopi would speak to anyone in South America unless they went through him. ... And I was given permission by that particular Elder to make that statement publicly, to bring clarification. ...

KERRY: ... Is it possible to say the name of the organization that stood in between... ...

MIRIAM: Institute for Cultural Awareness, I-C-A.

(end of radio segment)

And here's the background information...

ICA is headed by Adam Yellowbird, aka Adam DeArmon. Adam is a white man. Here is what the Manataka tribe in Arkansas posted about him http://www.manataka.org/page1084.html:

A Case In Point - More Information Obtained

In April 2009, Adam "Yellowbird" DeArmon, who heads up a million-dollar organization called "The Institute for Cultural Awareness" (ICA) located near Sedona engaged the services of Ruben Saufkie, Sr., a Hopi tribal member, to help him organize the "Return of the Ancestors" Gathering and attract more paying participants in "sacred ceremonies". It was the widely advertised intention of DeArmon and Saufkie to take dozens of bus loads and long caravans of cars to ancient sacred sites located on the Hopi Reservation. The Hopi Nation formerly notified both DeArmon and Saufkie in writing months before that the Gathering would not be allowed on Hopi land. But, DeArmon continued to sell high-dollar reservations to unsuspecting participants for months via the Internet and by U.S. Mail with full knowledge that the ceremonies would not take place.

DeArmon and his supporters claim the Hopi Nation and its spiritual elders denied entry to their sacred sites because "ceremonial protocol was broken". Yes, that is partly true. But DeArmon and his ICA supporters fail to mention specifics of their actions that precipitated the strong Hopi back-lash. Telling a different story, Ruben Saufkie claims that Hopi "politics" is the reason why ceremonies were prohibited. Saufkie says he is a "progressive leader" and the traditional elders are against him. DeArmon and his supporters now say "...the Hopi are not as important as many people think..."[emphasis added]

DeArmon also advertised ceremonies allegedly to take place at the Northern Arizona University during the Return of the Ancestors Gathering with prestigious elders and educators. However, months before the event was planned to take place, DeArmon was notified in writing that NAU would not allow event to take place on university property. This is another event during the "Return of the Ancestors" Gathering that was cancelled and DeArmon had full knowledge of this months before the event was to take place. DeArmon is silent on the subject of NAU's denial. Regardless of these facts, DeArmon and Saufkie continued their masquerade as hundreds of thousands of dollars poured into DeArmon's bank.

The ICA website challenged paying guests to the Return of the Ancestors Gathering to anti-up 1.5 million dollars to hear so-called spiritual elders, primarily from Mexico and South America, pontificate about prophesy, ways to achieve peace and participate in "sacred ceremonies". After his initial goal was reached, DeArmon increased his demand to 3 million dollars to "...Create a social impact like no other!..." The ICA website also says, "All donations are completely tax deductible and go towards the gathering."

A long-time ICA supporter and associate of DeArmon is a man living in Sedona who goes by the alias, Drunvalo Melchizedek. Melchizedek says on his website that "Every penny you gave to the ICA, either for tickets or donations, went to the elders in the form of airline tickets, bussing, shelter, food etc,...."

That is an interesting statement coming from an ICA insider. The Institute for Cultural Awareness' goal was to sponsor 72 or more global spiritual/cultural leaders and 28 youth council leaders. Even though many invited speakers drove to the event, let's pretend that 100 airline tickets were purchased at an extremely high cost of $3,000.00 each, thus the bill would be $300,000. That leaves over a million dollars to feed and house the speakers.

Eye-witnesses say that invited elders were begging participants to buy them blankets because they were cold from staying in make-shift quarters and many complained to participants that they were hungry. Hundreds of paying participants wandered around for hours trying to find advertised events. Food was not available at stated times and places. Emergency services and first-aid stations were not available for some people who got sick. It appeared to many ticket buyers the main concern of the strong-arm security staff was preventing anyone from recording the event. Many people were frisked and threatened about taking "authorized" pictures. A horde of paid photographers, video crews and equipment, security staff, and hawkers blocked the view of for many. Schedules were changed without notice and no printed schedules were available for most participants.

Promoters of the Return of the Ancestors Gathering disregarded the safety and welfare of ticket holders and violated numerous state laws. The ICA and Adam DeArmon committed fraud by continuing to sell tickets and accepting cash donations for events they knew would not take place. Local and state law enforcement officials have a responsibility to investigate these claims.

After light began to show through the thin veil of the million-dollar scam, DeArmon disabled most areas of his website and the only area that appears to be open is page titled "501(c)(3) Donations" http://www.instituteforculturalawareness.com/ http://www.ica8.org DeArmon did respond once to our emails asking for his comments, but his only response was, "That is not the truth." He failed to answer subsequent email questions asking what is the truth and what is not the truth. DeArmon is difficult to reach for a statement, but he promises on his website that "the work will continue". We hope not.

(end of text)

FYI, Adam Yellowbird is scheduled to be at the "Conscious Life Expo" in Los Angeles, California, February 12-15, 2010 http://lightparty.com/blog/?page_id=359

Here is how he is described in the linked page:

"Adam Yellowbird is a highly respected messenger for the Mayan Elders and other South American indigenous people. Adam is president of The Institute For Cultural Awareness and member of The Continental Council Of Indigenous Elders And Spirit Guides Of The Americas. He created “The Return Of the Ancestors Gathering” in the spring of 2009 in Arizona. He will be sharing his wisdom and insights during our panel discussions."

Drunvalo Melchizedek is mentioned in the Manataka text cited above, and here is what Drunvalo said about the Hopi on his website following the "Gathering of the Ancesters" http://spiritofmaat.com/june09/rota_2009_prophecy.html:

"But what about the Hopi?

"As far as this convening above is concerned, I believe that the Hopi were not as important as many thought. Why? Because the Hopi are Maya, and came from the Maya out of Guatemala long ago. Both tribes know and acknowledge this. What needed to happen was that the Maya and the Inner Circle of Atlantis, the Kogi Mamos and the Arhauco Mamos convene - and that happened. It would have probably felt better if the Hopi had joined, but as far as the Mayan prophecy is concerned, the Hopi Traditional leaders were asked to attend, but their absence does not fail the Mayan Prophecy." [emphasis added]

Drunvalo like Adam is a white man. Drunvalo is a representative of one of the Mayan Councils; there are a number of Mayan Councils, I believe.

So what does this material point to? That all depends on where you think these two guys are coming from. Are they fulfilling their organizational functions from the heart, but merely in a careless or less than satisfactory manner, or is there some other agenda? You decide?

By the way, the Hopi and the Maya were originally the same people. Drunvalo is correct about that, and Miriam spoke about this in her C2C interview, Part 6 on YouTube at about 2:12 Min. into the program http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67OvgRKb2HE.

IMO, the Hopi and the Maya can never truly be separated and will come together for THE GREAT GATHERING.

12-30-2009, 12:11 AM	#72
always Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 21	Re: The Great Gathering...Miriam Delicado...Hopi Message I thought the interview was excellent. Because the material is new to many people, they may not be relating to it as well, but it you listen to the end I think you gain a new perspective as far as what is going on in the world. Anyway... I want to quote from a part of the interview where Miriam talks about certain people preventing the Hopi and Mayan from coming together in April, 2009, then add some additional internet material as background. Let me know what you think? Beginning at 56:18 Min. into Miriam's Dec. 24th interview with Kerry Cassidy on "Camelot Radio" is the following http://projectcamelot.org/2009-Dec-2...m_Delicado.mp3: MIRIAM: ...The Hopis and the Mayans tried to contact each other during that event in April ["Gathering of the Ancestors", April, 2009] and the organizers of that event and the Hopi people that involved themselves publicly wih that event; from the Water Clan specifically, did not allow for that meeting to take place between the Traditional Leadership... ... ...all of those [Hopi] Tranditional Kiva Leaders and Chiefs and Representatives came together and made a decision collectively as they do in tradition, and said "No", they were not going to participate, but when they tried to reach the Mayans in that event, they couldn't even get the phone number to the head of the Mayan Council in order to have that conversation. THey were physically stopped. ... At one point a Hopi Elder went to Tuba City during that event and tried to speak to the head of the Mayan council on his own. And he was told by the organizer that he could not and would not be allowed to speak to anyone from South America, period... No Hopi would speak to anyone in South America unless they went through him. ... And I was given permission by that particular Elder to make that statement publicly, to bring clarification. ... KERRY: ... Is it possible to say the name of the organization that stood in between... ... MIRIAM: Institute for Cultural Awareness, I-C-A. (end of radio segment) And here's the background information... ICA is headed by Adam Yellowbird, aka Adam DeArmon. Adam is a white man. Here is what the Manataka tribe in Arkansas posted about him http://www.manataka.org/page1084.html: A Case In Point - More Information Obtained In April 2009, Adam "Yellowbird" DeArmon, who heads up a million-dollar organization called "The Institute for Cultural Awareness" (ICA) located near Sedona engaged the services of Ruben Saufkie, Sr., a Hopi tribal member, to help him organize the "Return of the Ancestors" Gathering and attract more paying participants in "sacred ceremonies". It was the widely advertised intention of DeArmon and Saufkie to take dozens of bus loads and long caravans of cars to ancient sacred sites located on the Hopi Reservation. The Hopi Nation formerly notified both DeArmon and Saufkie in writing months before that the Gathering would not be allowed on Hopi land. But, DeArmon continued to sell high-dollar reservations to unsuspecting participants for months via the Internet and by U.S. Mail with full knowledge that the ceremonies would not take place. DeArmon and his supporters claim the Hopi Nation and its spiritual elders denied entry to their sacred sites because "ceremonial protocol was broken". Yes, that is partly true. But DeArmon and his ICA supporters fail to mention specifics of their actions that precipitated the strong Hopi back-lash. Telling a different story, Ruben Saufkie claims that Hopi "politics" is the reason why ceremonies were prohibited. Saufkie says he is a "progressive leader" and the traditional elders are against him. DeArmon and his supporters now say "...the Hopi are not as important as many people think..."[emphasis added] DeArmon also advertised ceremonies allegedly to take place at the Northern Arizona University during the Return of the Ancestors Gathering with prestigious elders and educators. However, months before the event was planned to take place, DeArmon was notified in writing that NAU would not allow event to take place on university property. This is another event during the "Return of the Ancestors" Gathering that was cancelled and DeArmon had full knowledge of this months before the event was to take place. DeArmon is silent on the subject of NAU's denial. Regardless of these facts, DeArmon and Saufkie continued their masquerade as hundreds of thousands of dollars poured into DeArmon's bank. The ICA website challenged paying guests to the Return of the Ancestors Gathering to anti-up 1.5 million dollars to hear so-called spiritual elders, primarily from Mexico and South America, pontificate about prophesy, ways to achieve peace and participate in "sacred ceremonies". After his initial goal was reached, DeArmon increased his demand to 3 million dollars to "...Create a social impact like no other!..." The ICA website also says, "All donations are completely tax deductible and go towards the gathering." A long-time ICA supporter and associate of DeArmon is a man living in Sedona who goes by the alias, Drunvalo Melchizedek. Melchizedek says on his website that "Every penny you gave to the ICA, either for tickets or donations, went to the elders in the form of airline tickets, bussing, shelter, food etc,...." That is an interesting statement coming from an ICA insider. The Institute for Cultural Awareness' goal was to sponsor 72 or more global spiritual/cultural leaders and 28 youth council leaders. Even though many invited speakers drove to the event, let's pretend that 100 airline tickets were purchased at an extremely high cost of $3,000.00 each, thus the bill would be $300,000. That leaves over a million dollars to feed and house the speakers. Eye-witnesses say that invited elders were begging participants to buy them blankets because they were cold from staying in make-shift quarters and many complained to participants that they were hungry. Hundreds of paying participants wandered around for hours trying to find advertised events. Food was not available at stated times and places. Emergency services and first-aid stations were not available for some people who got sick. It appeared to many ticket buyers the main concern of the strong-arm security staff was preventing anyone from recording the event. Many people were frisked and threatened about taking "authorized" pictures. A horde of paid photographers, video crews and equipment, security staff, and hawkers blocked the view of for many. Schedules were changed without notice and no printed schedules were available for most participants. Promoters of the Return of the Ancestors Gathering disregarded the safety and welfare of ticket holders and violated numerous state laws. The ICA and Adam DeArmon committed fraud by continuing to sell tickets and accepting cash donations for events they knew would not take place. Local and state law enforcement officials have a responsibility to investigate these claims. After light began to show through the thin veil of the million-dollar scam, DeArmon disabled most areas of his website and the only area that appears to be open is page titled "501(c)(3) Donations" http://www.instituteforculturalawareness.com/ http://www.ica8.org DeArmon did respond once to our emails asking for his comments, but his only response was, "That is not the truth." He failed to answer subsequent email questions asking what is the truth and what is not the truth. DeArmon is difficult to reach for a statement, but he promises on his website that "the work will continue". We hope not. (end of text) FYI, Adam Yellowbird is scheduled to be at the "Conscious Life Expo" in Los Angeles, California, February 12-15, 2010 http://lightparty.com/blog/?page_id=359 Here is how he is described in the linked page: "Adam Yellowbird is a highly respected messenger for the Mayan Elders and other South American indigenous people. Adam is president of The Institute For Cultural Awareness and member of The Continental Council Of Indigenous Elders And Spirit Guides Of The Americas. He created “The Return Of the Ancestors Gathering” in the spring of 2009 in Arizona. He will be sharing his wisdom and insights during our panel discussions." Drunvalo Melchizedek is mentioned in the Manataka text cited above, and here is what Drunvalo said about the Hopi on his website following the "Gathering of the Ancesters" http://spiritofmaat.com/june09/rota_2009_prophecy.html: "But what about the Hopi? "As far as this convening above is concerned, I believe that the Hopi were not as important as many thought. Why? Because the Hopi are Maya, and came from the Maya out of Guatemala long ago. Both tribes know and acknowledge this. What needed to happen was that the Maya and the Inner Circle of Atlantis, the Kogi Mamos and the Arhauco Mamos convene - and that happened. It would have probably felt better if the Hopi had joined, but as far as the Mayan prophecy is concerned, the Hopi Traditional leaders were asked to attend, but their absence does not fail the Mayan Prophecy." [emphasis added] Drunvalo like Adam is a white man. Drunvalo is a representative of one of the Mayan Councils; there are a number of Mayan Councils, I believe. So what does this material point to? That all depends on where you think these two guys are coming from. Are they fulfilling their organizational functions from the heart, but merely in a careless or less than satisfactory manner, or is there some other agenda? You decide? By the way, the Hopi and the Maya were originally the same people. Drunvalo is correct about that, and Miriam spoke about this in her C2C interview, Part 6 on YouTube at about 2:12 Min. into the program http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67OvgRKb2HE. IMO, the Hopi and the Maya can never truly be separated and will come together for THE GREAT GATHERING. Last edited by always; 12-30-2009 at 12:37 AM.