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Fredkc · 12-22-2009, 11:37 PM

Ok, for those who can't/don't want to look at a spread sheet,
I exported the data to a plain ol' web page:

http://fredsitelive.com/personal/Cur...00yrTemps.html

1000 years of avg planet temperatures in centigrade.
Just for fun, here are the very first and very last
three year's worth of info.

Year, Mean Temp, N Hemi, S Hemi
1001, 15.9155, 16.5835, 15.2475
1002, 15.9209, 16.5892, 15.2525
1003, 15.9252, 16.5938, 15.2567

1996, 15.8415, 16.3674, 15.3155
1997, 15.8711, 16.4086, 15.3337
1998, 15.8986, 16.4463, 15.3509

1998 was .017 deg. colder than 1001.
And it pretty much goes like that, all the way through.
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Next ... separate out two other subjects; warming, and pollution.

Granted! There are many stupid things we are doing, which are doing
the planet harm, many with regards to both farming and power generation
(I happen to think these are the two worst) that could, without change,
leave us with a planet that can/will not sustain this many humans.

If you want really scary stuff, try the notion of discovering that, unless
we change our ways, or let the Great Plains of the US lie fallow for 40-50
years, it might become a desert (then it'd be dead for 500 years min.). Things
like that should give people pause.

Or the fact that we throw away, or let rot, about 2/3 of the food we produce,
because of stupid socio-political reasons.

Or the percentage of clean potable water we pump into the ocean, after using
it just to make electricity. (theres gotta be a better way)

I do think there are several ways we are peein' in the punch bowl. But being either
the sole, or major cause of warming, isn't one of them. IMO

Fred

12-22-2009, 11:37 PM	#12
Fredkc Project Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Riverside, ca. Posts: 898	Re: Climategate - I am undecided Ok, for those who can't/don't want to look at a spread sheet, I exported the data to a plain ol' web page: http://fredsitelive.com/personal/Cur...00yrTemps.html 1000 years of avg planet temperatures in centigrade. Just for fun, here are the very first and very last three year's worth of info. Year, Mean Temp, N Hemi, S Hemi 1001, 15.9155, 16.5835, 15.2475 1002, 15.9209, 16.5892, 15.2525 1003, 15.9252, 16.5938, 15.2567 1996, 15.8415, 16.3674, 15.3155 1997, 15.8711, 16.4086, 15.3337 1998, 15.8986, 16.4463, 15.3509 1998 was .017 deg. colder than 1001. And it pretty much goes like that, all the way through. ______________________________________________ Next ... separate out two other subjects; warming, and pollution. Granted! There are many stupid things we are doing, which are doing the planet harm, many with regards to both farming and power generation (I happen to think these are the two worst) that could, without change, leave us with a planet that can/will not sustain this many humans. If you want really scary stuff, try the notion of discovering that, unless we change our ways, or let the Great Plains of the US lie fallow for 40-50 years, it might become a desert (then it'd be dead for 500 years min.). Things like that should give people pause. Or the fact that we throw away, or let rot, about 2/3 of the food we produce, because of stupid socio-political reasons. Or the percentage of clean potable water we pump into the ocean, after using it just to make electricity. (theres gotta be a better way) I do think there are several ways we are peein' in the punch bowl. But being either the sole, or major cause of warming, isn't one of them. IMO Fred __________________ "Life IS mystical! It's just that we're used to it" Evil cannot be killed. Only redeemed. Chat us up at: Avalon Chat Last edited by Fredkc; 12-22-2009 at 11:50 PM.