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Old 12-20-2009, 02:55 AM   #41
100thmonkey
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Originally Posted by kriya View Post
I have the opposite problem to you, my whole family are atheists and although I don't regard myself as religious I am deeply spiritual. I have learnt to get along with them because I have no choice and I love them. So I keep that part of me hidden from them, it's easier that way.

I think life is just one big comedy drama

Love,

Kriya
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Originally Posted by whiterose View Post
I too used to be a Christian. Without going into a lot of detail, lets say that I have been awakened, seeing that all religions are a construct of the Illuminati, as a method of control, and that the vast majority of people are fooled into thinking that what they are doing is pleasing to 'God' whoever that may be for that indvidual.

This was a very rude awakening for me, and for quite a while I floundered, feeling as if what I had seen as solid ground had been cut from under me. I'm still coming to terms with this and still floundering a bit, but I do believe that there is something, a Source, or Creator, but other than that I'm still trying to work everything else out. That's why I'm here on this forum!
To Kriya and whiterose, I understand both of these points very well. The exchristian site I linked to is very atheist oriented. I couldn't put my testimony up there because of all the interrogation I would receive for still believing in conspiracies and spirituality, etc. I'd love it if they understood about the Illuminati/NWO also, but I still enjoy the site...
I'm just happy to also be back at Avalon where I can share more openly.



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Originally Posted by Unified Serenity View Post
...I frankly believe Eve had sex with Lucifer and got pregnant with Cain who represents his father. Eve gave birth to twins of two different fathers. Abel who was Adam's son and Cain who was Lucifer's son.
There's a couple of problems with that, seeing as the Adam is really a version of the older Egyptian God, Atum, who also names all creatures, and who's enemy was the serpent, etc. Atum's story is fascinating in that regard.

And also, 'Lucifer' doesn't exist as the character presented in the bible.
You may have heard how the name mentioned in Isaiah was really a mistranslation, and was actually referring to the Babylonian king of the time. I won't go into the detail of how it should have been translated as Day Star, etc. except to give this link which pretty much covers it, if anyone is interested or hasn't yet heard...

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Originally Posted by Unified Serenity View Post
...Jesus said as much when he accused the Kenites who got into the Pharisees who claimed to be of Judah (Jews) and were not. Jesus said they were of their father the devil. He said "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar." They were Kenites, they fulfill the negative side of prophecy (See Isaiah 53) and they are protected and all will be fulfilled. We have our choices and spiritual fruit to bear. We choose our paths ultimately and bear the responsibility of our choices. Those with eyes to see and ears to hear will understand my words.
This is actually where Jesus made a mistake.

He actually gets confused between two different guys named Zechariah.
It might not seem like a big deal to most, but to a bible inerrantist, like my old self, it's pretty significant.
Let me explain:

In Matthew 23:35 Jesus mentions Zecharias son of Barachias as the one being slaughtered between the temple. However he is confusing the slaughter of Zechariah son of Jehoida in 2 Chronicles 24:20-22, with the author of the Old Testament book of Zechariah (Zechariah 1:1) who was the actual son of Berachiah.

Also, as my jewish friends can explain, the 'Suffering Servant' of Isaiah 53 is actually the nation of Israel itself, not a literal person, ie. no jews have ever taken that passage as a prophecy of their messiah and thus waiting for it to be fulfilled...

Thankyou to all others who have als added to this thread, I've enjoyed your posts and will follow up on those links posted when I have more time. (I'm on my parents c'puter at the moment, for holidays... Happy Solsitice everybody).
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