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Originally Posted by Moxie
Why... a designated name... the Creator, or his "son".
God (anything worthy of worship, worth ship) does not have sons or children... it's a mind meme...pall-parotting!.. time we tire of patriarchal pronouns.... when might we stop this "he", this "sons" ... this "man of god"...the "father".
please... Choose your words wisely...these are things that are qualifyingly divisive. Is that so hard to see? If not, please begin anew.
God is either every thing or nothing at all.<<< entirely inclusive. grasp it... this "mystery".
Love is NOT earned.... your "ticket" is there. God does not require your approval or your recognition, adoration, praise or prayers. whether conscious or not, it lives you. The ticket is your fabric, your being.... surprise!
Love is not about deserving... time is arbitrary,... what difference does it make what "time" one "gets it"?
get it??? <<< that is love!
Love knowingly. inwardly (for knowing IS eternal life, the definition of...according [in harmony with] the bible).
Bestow this grace as you are able. Forgive (release) my [self separate awareness] trespassing.... AS I forgive others [I am released AS I release others] from a binding of any kind.....
you are lit, you may not be dimmed by a shadow of darkness, that which divides and calls that 'other' even exists independently of you, God, in its totality.
How does one designate a culture that does not resonate when the truth exists every where within all!
Spiritual insight is sight seeing is it not? Get it?
One need not look into for fear to view any thing any where.
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Hi Moxie!
I agree in most of you said but consider this;
WE are still on low level of knowledge, everybody on this planet. Difference is in some people who are more aware than others and wish to BE...wishes to learn and grow.
Still we can not explain the smallest things around us. For example can you explain how one plant is functioning? YOu can decribe from what you know from various encycopedias or if you have studied plants, but that is second or third hand knowledge. YOu can not explain why some processes take place or from what structure the plant is made on what types of atoms, molecules and rest, also you can not explain why that plant is there, does it co relate with other or no, how does it affect that small bug climbing its leaf or does the wind affect its grow with bringing ozone on its leaves ..
See questions are endless regarding just one tree in your garden.
Simply we do not know. We can feel and that is divine gift and starting point of our learning journey.
Since we do not know even that, how can we exactly know what is Creator?
What is Christ?
What is an angel?
What is spirit?
What is demon?
What is human?
We as humans have sexes but in our essence we are not sexual. We are one. But in this reality we need both sexes in order to create new life. We need both components.
I think that creator is above sexes and all that we know. But then since we do not know much Creator needed to show itself to us in order so we can understand at least a bit about it.
I do not know is it he or she. I think it is not he or she , it is above our understanding.
Once when asked Jesus exlained that when people are resurrected they do not marry as they would as men and women, then they become as angels in heaven who do not have sexuality.
SO they are genderless but very strong and powerfull beings, they were presented as men in the past in order to comfort humans to see them as really powerful or the past time humans would not understand them.
Regarding love, you are right. We can not earned it and religions were using exactly that thing to convince people that they should labor hard to earn Godīs love. They were misused.
On the other hand God loves us unconditionally but despite that we have to show that we do not take that love for granted or we will not have that ticket.
See this on next example:
God sheds his light and love for us unconditionally to help and care for us and we... we acumulate and do not spread it further. We tend just to receive and that is not divine. That is why God is teaching us as his creation that we should not block love and light received from him since it is his will that all have light and love.
That is why we need to fight selfishness and darkness in order to be one with Creator.
But also ,Creator has a limit of patience and he suffered us for a long time helping us become, helping us to grow up, gently carring and loving us with ocassional correctioning and upbringing which was harsh.
But when you see why was that happening , you see every reason why was that necesarry.
If you have a child you will not allow him/her to destory your house or car no matter how much you love them. They have to be corrected and if necesarry punished in order to learn. If child becomes spoiled brat what do you do? When you try to talk with him/her gently and nicely full of love and the kid screams at you an stab you in the eye or kick you in the face or burn your curtains or brake brand new TV or just deeply insults you?
What do you do then?
I know your answer, so project that on humanity and its Creator...
Love and blessings,
Beren