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Old 12-16-2009, 06:43 PM   #17
Leunamros
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Default Re: Intrigued, fascinated, shocked...but where is the hard evidence?

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On a different note, Steven Greer is a good starting point for evidence but again, his "proof" consists of "expert testimonies." Again, more supposedly credible people SAYING unbelievable things. Where are the documents, photos, memos, etc. Steven?

I am making a point here. Let me be clear that I'm not the guy who still wouldn't believe even if an ET walked up to him and shook his hand. I'm not looking for every possible reason TO NOT believe. However, I'm also not looking for every possible reason TO believe either. I'm trying to keep my biases out of my research and want to concern myself with evidence only.

Trust me, this is something that the UFO/ET community needs more of because it can be turned into a "religion" of sorts. People blindly and whole-hardheartedly "believe" and have "faith" because they want to believe and nothing will change their minds. There isn't anything wrong with having "faith," I have faith. But this topic demands evidence of some sort and there should, I might point out, be A TON of it available if what the thousands of whistle blowers, government officials, etc. are saying is true. On a side note, 9/11 was clearly not what the government told us, there IS an enormous amount of hard irrefutable evidence directly contradicting what the commission members told us.

My hope here is to get others to think about what they believe in and why they believe it AND offer up evidence other than blind faith.
There are official documents that, seems to prove the existence of some alien intervention, but, even then, i dont get the thing i wanna get: hardcore evidence; Greer hasnīt done that yet to the point i dig it with my limited intelligence. One document.... means nothing, just a paper that says something.... you buy it or not.

Look at the Gary Mckinnon testimony... seems credible, and all that, the guy is suffering, facing the threat of prison and all that... but, even in those hard circumstances, im not convinced. No proof at all of anything, he saw some names in a computer, some bunch of words, bunch of words, that compromised his legal liberty.

The punishment he receives now is for violating a law of privacy, not for discovering there are aliens out there...

I think, im convinced there is some external intervention here but i canīt figure out itīs nature, thatīs all.

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No i didn't quite get your point, i still don't, but for what concerns your comment above, i can only say: speak for yourself. some of us may not feel so tiny at all at all at all!I think we are much greater than the society have us believe.
from a position of minuteness - what your aspirations can be?

i get the sense that we are born to feel great about ourselves.
just curious - what is it that makes it feel good and/or and/or make any sense and/or know more while feeling tiny?

best wishes
Itīs about that whenever you want to travel around everything that it is, that it seems to be, or that is yet created to be, in my own opinion, you have to use paradoxes as the fuel.

Humans here in this planet are trapped because they need a father to use as an excuse to refuse their own power.

They feel ashamed of what they are: beings more powerful than the more powerful being they have ever imagined.

If you wanna really feel the love the universe has to offer you, let it embrace you, as it has to be bigger than you in your mind. BUT, sadly, you have to see something that convinces you of that, really, you have to see real hardocre evidence, or you will dismiss all of this.

I didnt have found any technique to do this, as it seems there isnīt anyone to do such a thing. I have only realized we are pathetic beings, and that, it all starts from there. From stopping being so sophisticated, and just more human, vulnerable, mortal, lovely, only under those critical conditions.
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