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sjkted · 12-16-2009, 07:23 AM

I think that climategate is symptomatic of what's happening with government and has nothing to do with the environment. The point is that we've gone as far as we can with our system of fractional-reserve banking, warring clans of governments, and industrial agriculture. The system came with an expiration date when it was created some 80 years ago.

The Copenhagen Treaty is their version of Act 2, kind of like the massive restructuring that happened after the great depression and WWII, except that this is an even more major restructuring because we have 6.5+ billion souls here and everything in terms of laws and technology are much, much more complex.

Yes, we are trashing the environment. But, there really isn't too much we can do about it within the current system. If you do any of the research on things that most people hold to be green or "good" for the environment, they are only superficial at best. Consider the idea of buying a hybrid car or recycling. On the surface, the hybrid gets very good gas mileage, but the reality is that for most people the majority of their miles driven are highway miles and the car is running on gasoline like any other vehicle. Likewise, recycling is good, but how much of it is actually reused or not wasted? Another item is these small incremental energy improvements in products -- i.e. the new refrigerator is 10% more energy efficient than the old model, but if you throw away your old refrigerator to buy the new one, you're wasting even more energy than if you keep your inefficient one.

There are real movements like the Tesla motors car or the who killed the electric car lessees. There are also real free energy devices and some very good ideas like the idea of removing planned obsolescence from new items for sale and re-designing them so they can be upgraded like people used to do with their computers. If you research these, the only reasonable conclusion is that they can't exist under this paradigm.

Don't fall for the BS that people caused the global warming. This is just a meme to attach to our already encoded meme about religious sin. We don't need to feel guilty for existing, breathing air, and living our lives.

This is an auspicious topic because the old paradigm is dying. The question is what we will replace it with.

12-16-2009, 07:23 AM	#54
sjkted Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: LA County Posts: 361	Re: Climate Gate Updates: The Global Warming Scam is Being Exposed I think that climategate is symptomatic of what's happening with government and has nothing to do with the environment. The point is that we've gone as far as we can with our system of fractional-reserve banking, warring clans of governments, and industrial agriculture. The system came with an expiration date when it was created some 80 years ago. The Copenhagen Treaty is their version of Act 2, kind of like the massive restructuring that happened after the great depression and WWII, except that this is an even more major restructuring because we have 6.5+ billion souls here and everything in terms of laws and technology are much, much more complex. Yes, we are trashing the environment. But, there really isn't too much we can do about it within the current system. If you do any of the research on things that most people hold to be green or "good" for the environment, they are only superficial at best. Consider the idea of buying a hybrid car or recycling. On the surface, the hybrid gets very good gas mileage, but the reality is that for most people the majority of their miles driven are highway miles and the car is running on gasoline like any other vehicle. Likewise, recycling is good, but how much of it is actually reused or not wasted? Another item is these small incremental energy improvements in products -- i.e. the new refrigerator is 10% more energy efficient than the old model, but if you throw away your old refrigerator to buy the new one, you're wasting even more energy than if you keep your inefficient one. There are real movements like the Tesla motors car or the who killed the electric car lessees. There are also real free energy devices and some very good ideas like the idea of removing planned obsolescence from new items for sale and re-designing them so they can be upgraded like people used to do with their computers. If you research these, the only reasonable conclusion is that they can't exist under this paradigm. Don't fall for the BS that people caused the global warming. This is just a meme to attach to our already encoded meme about religious sin. We don't need to feel guilty for existing, breathing air, and living our lives. This is an auspicious topic because the old paradigm is dying. The question is what we will replace it with.