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Old 12-16-2009, 03:17 AM   #14
Moxie
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Default Re: Free Will - just how far can it go?

I think you are, in a round about way, stating by positing questions, that we may indeed Not have free will.

The term free will is so overused and really, I've not yet seen a good definition of what it means.

If I truly have free will, could I just decide or choose to become a professional thief? No, it's not in me to do that, that choice I do not have. Could I decide to be a sexual lover of my same gender? No, it's not in me, that is not an option for me to choose. Could I decide or choose to become not exist at all? No one can answer that now can they? Can I choose or decide for my body to stop functioning, for my heart to stop beating from pure thought?.... nope, don't think so.

Many speak as thought their their "personality" continues on. I say it does not. What exactly is left when your body is gone? What is the point of having "character" without a body?

If we are all made of the same stuff, that same stuff is left after your personality is dead and gone. I do not think that your personality continues to exist, but then again, what do I really know? Pure speculation.

I have no memories of another existence, nor, if I had subjective experiences of having been out of my body (which I have) does that prove that I would exist without my body. That's my take.

I don't think we have free will to the extent that most think we do.

But I do understand your stance Spregovori... and there is nothing wrong with wanting to no longer exist. I don't have an ethical or moral problem with your wanting that.

I don't think that anyone truly knows what happens when this body dies.

I know that I do not want to live in another state where every time that I eat something has to die. I would not ever want to create an existence where a being has to experience death either. I wonder
sometimes what sort of god created this existence....

but then, I'm just sputtering nonsense, it's okay to think and speculate.
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