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The problem is that you have very good intentions, but you are steering away from your own goal unconsciouly and won't even consider the possibility of being wrong.
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What on earth are you talking about? I haven't yet had any discussion with anyone where someone could be right or wrong. All I've had is threads being taken over by religious debates (which I want no part of).. that has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone being right or wrong.
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Of course you will come out and say you didn't say that anywhere in your post. That is true, you didn't say it... But you DID it. It is what stands out in your posts. It's not the words you use, it's the way you use them. You use them negativly, you might not see it, but it is only because you don't allow yourself to see it.
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What posts? Most of my posts have been me flapping my arms about getting people to stay on topic. STILL I hav enot gone into ANY detail about what I actually DO believe about hardly ANYTHING.
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Just BE. It doesn't matter what others think of you, even if they are wrong about what you are saying. IT DOESN'T matter what others think of you. You say you don't care about what others think about you, but you go on and say they HAVE to change their perception of you.
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I don't care what people think of me. I care about my posts staying on topic. It's got nothing to do with what people think of me. Nothing to do with right or wrong. I want people to respond to the topic at hand. I am not saying I am right,. I am not saying other people are wrong. I am not saying anything about right or wrong. I am just trying to clear a space so that I can finally post without people taking everything thread down a religions debate path, It's that simple.
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Do you realise the implications of that contradiction? It makes your arguments very weak. Because arguments are like a house of cards, and all those contradictions in your argumentation are like missing cards in the structure. A good argument isn't complicated, it FLOWS in the same direction. It doesn't have to be complicated. Complicated arguments are often based on flimsy conceptions and the complication comes from trying to patch up the holes. You should not have to patch things up, it should just flow.
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WHAT ARGUMENTS? I haven't had any yet. Nothi9ng has been discussed. I haven't said hardly a single thing I ever wanted to say. No discussion has happened yet. All that's happened is 35 religious debates and me being in the middle of it all saying: I didn't come here for a religious debate.
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Your problem is that you care TOO MUCH... I know you care about the world arround us, and that we are under attack. We realise this... but fighting fire with fire will only create more fires. You can't stop war with war. The only way to win the game is not to play it. By declaring war you are creating more war, not helping it end.
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I just want people to stay on topic. I am not fighting ANY point of view. I haven't even got the chance to enter such a conversation yet. I'm STILL at the point of: "I am not here to debate religion can you stay on topic?". I've had to do that a dozen times in THIS thread which is a complain about people injecting their ideas about religion into a thread that isn't about religion.
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Originally Posted by MadSheeple
I was like you before, I cared too much. But then I realised that you CANNOT change others, you can only change yourself and repeating the same things over and over again won't make the others change. Realise that. You are wasting your energy fighting, when fighting only equates in more fights.  Stop fighting, create something new that renders the previous system obsolete, don't fight the system. |
Like me? Neither you or anyone else knwos hardly anything ABOUT me yet! I haven't said anything. No one will let me. I've been to busy replying: "No actually that's not what I believe", "Actually no I'm not here to promote that", "Actually no I am not religious", "actually, I didn't come here to doom everyone to hell", "Actually, no I didn't call everyone demons".. and it just went ona nd on and on and on until I realised I have to get everyone to stop projecting tehir religious views onto me so that I can actually SPEAK.
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Here is something that I read in a thread on this forum wich helps see what I am trying to say. Credit to that person, don't remember exactly where I got it from..
Being in the mindset of I am nothing, I know nothing keeps me available to everything, and keeps the ego from attaching itself to form and matter, opinions and predominently left brain thinking.
ps. excuse my english... I hope I was clear enough and that you don't perceive this as an attack. BTW I did read all your initial post and all the posts after that, and I am on topic incase you say I am not 
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Basically you somehow have formed the opinion that I am on hare trying to make everyone believe what I want them to believe and that I think I am right. I have absolutely NO idea why you are thinking that. I can only assume that you see a lot of the same thing being said over and over and have decided that it must be me arguing with everyone about "something". No, I am after one thing: for people to stay on topic and stop bringing everything into a religious debate -- so I can post.
I have to scream from the top of the room...
{{{{I did not come here to project my beliefs onto anyone. I didn't come here to spread religion. I didn't come here thinking I am right and everyone else is wrong. I haven't even had the opportunity yet to outline what it is that I DO believe.}}}}