Carmen, from all my research, I was under the impression that 4th density life wouldn't still be threedimensional, in other words that you would ascend from this 3rd density life to a new realm that can't be seen/explained in our 3rd density terms, and that if you did stay in 3rd density as a 4th density being, you would unlock supernatural powers such as telepathy, clairvoyance, etc.. I've always believed that's what 4th density meant, that we would truly 'advance' to the next level, not just stay in 3rd density albeit very enlightened and very full of love, I thought the shift from 3rd to 4th density would be massive and radical and it would probably mean the end of our 3rd reality self, that's what I gathered from the Hidden Hand's testimony and the Law of One in which the harvest and ascension were explained, of course I could be wrong, what's your take on this?. I enjoyed your thread regardless.