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Originally Posted by 100thmonkey
Thanks Zeddo, I did enjoy that clip.
I actually also saw it performed on Letterman recently.
Beren, I appreciate your intent and you're right in a way.
I know there are disputes between what Constantine intended and what Jesus may have intended.
The 'real' Jesus may well have been a wise man, but the closest we have to his original wisdom teachings is in the Gospel of Thomas, which was barred from the bible as it was 'too Gnostic'.
'Jesus' may well have been a gnostic himself then.
Who knows really?
Yet, basically, if whatever 'true' christianity your proposing boils down to something that includes an eternal hell, or similar fate, I'm just not into it.
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I am not proposing hell, that īs for sure!
If you read the context of hell when spoken in Bible you will not see Hell as it is today spoken. Hell is borrowed idea from pagan cults and mostly from Babylon pantheist religions.
When you cross reference Bible you will not find that God made hell or that he tortures people there. Hell does not exist.
It exist in fear based minds of many people.
When Bible said that someone goes to hell or gehenna or similar it simply means that that person stops existing.
It happened of many mistranslations deliberately placed there by Vatican in order to lead astray people from truth.
People ,often do not think, they are on autopilot in their life and hence they do not notice when slight change is there. That slight change eventually leads to bonds of slavery and fear which was not Godīs intentions at all.
Jesus said know the truth and it will set you free.
Free from slavery.
That is why they killed him because people saw that what they were was in prison, invisible but terrible prison and they wanted out! Religious leaders freaked out of loosing controll of the grid and they killed him.
That was happening all the way and is happening today whenever a person wishes the real truth.
On the hell again;
Creator is the most powerful in the whole universe since he created it.
Why would he need to put somebody in a place where they will forever be tormented?
Why he would enjoy that, when he can simply erase the person without any pain?
Satan ,on the other hand IS enjoying that since he created hell idea and passed it on ignorants.
Also where is written in revelation that Satan will be put in hell and forever tormented is just a symbol that he will be utterly destroyed without a chance to live again, he who brought pain and death and deceit into universe. Example of his final defeat will be a banner for all to see and learn from it.