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Originally Posted by 371

I have heard David Wilcock speak extensively about Ascension, and it seems to me to sound a lot like the Rapture spoken of in the Bible. It is two words with the same meaning, or are they entirely different? I appreciate any clarification.

You could open a real can o' worms with this one! I'll be interested in what folks have to say on this.

I've never been entirely comfortable with the term ascension. I like both "shift" and "quickening" better. Ascension is something that happened to Elijah, Jesus, Bahá'u'lláh.

I'm also not comfortable with the scriptural basis of the so-called rapture. It's based of a couple of snippets of scripture that to my mind don't really support the common form of the idea. But the question you ask has occurred to me, too.

It could be that events on earth will cause the "death" of millions of people...and that we would suddenly find ourselves intact except for our bodies, in some other dimension or realm. Would that qualify as "The Rapture?" It would to some folks, surely not to others.

This is the same Bible that says Jesus will come back out of the clouds, and every eye shall see him. To me this refers to the clouds of delusion, but most fundamentalists interpret this passage literally. Think about it. OK, so it's an overcast day....he comes down out of the clouds. What then? How does everyone see him? He does a Mighty Mouse routine and circles the globe a few hundred times? What about people sleeping? What about people who work underground? How does everyone see him? The obvious answer is that it's a metaphor, and I think the same is true of the rapture.