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Originally Posted by Zeddo
I have to humbly disagree with this whole statement.
I would have thought that the purpose of life was indeed to die to self? To ascend to something higher than just the physicality of the illusion we understand to be our lives at this moment in time, this fleshly paradise of wanton lust which is in fact a disease of the "mind" in the physicality of this being-ness.
Perhaps I am wrong, perhaps I need to know who paris hilton is fornicating with and perhaps I need to revel in the knowledge of carnal desire and craving, perhaps striving for spirituality and a oneness of this existence is indeed folly and I need to die to spirit and engage fully in this existence on an experiential level.
Perhaps I got it all wrong...Z
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Zeddo I wouldn't say you're wrong, I'd just say there's no need to be afraid of
failing to 'die to self', before you die physically.
Not that you are, but some seem to be worried about it, with a sense of urgency that is almost paranoia.
I don't think it's necessary to complete a full awakening in one lifetime, since that's the goal of the higher self, not necessarily the physical self.
That sense of desire to learn comes from our higher self, and feeding it is by no means wrong. I would never criticise a search for truth, or knowledge in any way. I just think it's not something to be stressed over.
Achieving awareness is a default result of experience.
Even if we purposely tried to not learn we'd still learn something out of that, or at least our higher self would.
One life time might be incredibly unproductive, but our higher self would learn from that and may then incarnate in another life with a set of circumstances likely to bring us some harsh lessons rapidly.
Some of those 3rd world children who starve in short, brutal, diseased lives are an example. Such lives seem meaningless and pointless, especially if one believes in a god behind it all, but really there is something learned, and the experience is not a total waste.
A sense of duty or purpose might be genetically bred, or socially bred, and we can enter into lives like that for the purpose of learning what they have to share, then next life we may need a break from such harshness and Paris Hilton watching might be a nice relief (personally I'm not interested, but it'd be very taxing to try to 'counter the culture' on such a subject.)