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eleni · 12-02-2009, 05:20 PM

Remote influencing- not touched on too much in the interview but......
it is real, it's simply unbelievable at times when as someone like myself who was raised in it can look back and see how events were orchestrated under the influence of remote influencing.

After my father died , I had the same dream every night. I knew he was trying to contact me via the dream state and it took me until this year to figure out the meaning of the dream. In the dream he was always sitting in a chair shackled. At the time when I was having the dreams I thought he was just caught on the astral plane since most of these Illume initiates/ characters are so tied to 3d they can't let it go.

Instead what he was trying to convey was that he was shackled and had no say because he had given himself over to that world. Maybe it was his way of apologizing to me?

In an case, I found the reference Martinez made of ayahausca to be of interest. After my first aya session some 3 years ago I came to a greater understanding and forgiveness even though there are times when I discover more/regain more memory and I break down. Happened yesterday but I then remember the larger picture at hand - they have created something very negative for themselves and have used various good souls as victims.

On a higher level I do agree that we agreed to it. I do believe they will reap what they have sown and it may appear unjust at 3d level but theirs is coming.

The interview was 100% accurate- everything he stated was truth. There's not a lot of material out there about this subject that hasn't been prone to some disinfo- but I can say that from my experience, what he said was 100% accurate.

I'm glad he touched on the ET issue.

Here's some good news for the day......today I spoke to a family member- I was told that some *people* are bankrupt.

Of course that's a relative term for us regular people as these people still have loads of $$$, but some at the top have had to put plans on hold (whether it real estate development, shipping, arms dealers, etc) for the time being.

They do think they are above everyone and do operate in a different reality which I thought was due to the amount of $$$$/influence they have over society.

The higher up in the hierarchy one goes, the more disconnected they are even if they have less $$$$ than someone in the lower ranks.

12-02-2009, 05:20 PM	#15
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Support for Victims of MKULTRA Projects Remote influencing- not touched on too much in the interview but...... it is real, it's simply unbelievable at times when as someone like myself who was raised in it can look back and see how events were orchestrated under the influence of remote influencing. After my father died , I had the same dream every night. I knew he was trying to contact me via the dream state and it took me until this year to figure out the meaning of the dream. In the dream he was always sitting in a chair shackled. At the time when I was having the dreams I thought he was just caught on the astral plane since most of these Illume initiates/ characters are so tied to 3d they can't let it go. Instead what he was trying to convey was that he was shackled and had no say because he had given himself over to that world. Maybe it was his way of apologizing to me? In an case, I found the reference Martinez made of ayahausca to be of interest. After my first aya session some 3 years ago I came to a greater understanding and forgiveness even though there are times when I discover more/regain more memory and I break down. Happened yesterday but I then remember the larger picture at hand - they have created something very negative for themselves and have used various good souls as victims. On a higher level I do agree that we agreed to it. I do believe they will reap what they have sown and it may appear unjust at 3d level but theirs is coming. The interview was 100% accurate- everything he stated was truth. There's not a lot of material out there about this subject that hasn't been prone to some disinfo- but I can say that from my experience, what he said was 100% accurate. I'm glad he touched on the ET issue. Here's some good news for the day......today I spoke to a family member- I was told that some people are bankrupt. Of course that's a relative term for us regular people as these people still have loads of $$$, but some at the top have had to put plans on hold (whether it real estate development, shipping, arms dealers, etc) for the time being. They do think they are above everyone and do operate in a different reality which I thought was due to the amount of $$$$/influence they have over society. The higher up in the hierarchy one goes, the more disconnected they are even if they have less $$$$ than someone in the lower ranks. Last edited by eleni; 12-02-2009 at 05:25 PM.