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Old 12-01-2009, 03:38 PM   #48
Jonathon
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Default Re: Are they up there?Now what??? HMMMMM...

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Well said 14 Chakras ... Im all for cutting out the middle men

IMO - They are not here to help us. They are here for OUR help. Our compliance. They have all the tech. you can imagine and it still doesnt come close to being as powerfull as what is inside every single one of us.
I'm all for opinions, however what is this charge based on? What leads you to believe you are correct in these assumptions? Would you rather continue making your assumptions about their position and intentions or would you rather we compel them to reveal those intentions? The fact is you and I both know that you are speculating - (I don't mean to sound offensive here) none of us have the evidence for the position you are taking. Speculating gets us no where. They are giving us (assuming this is real in the 1st place) the opportunity to compel them to reveal whatever it is we want them to reveal.

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They'd gladly 'share' their toys for the rights to YOU
How exactly are we giving up our rights by communicating? On the contrary, we are asserting our rights and taking control of the relationship here... putting it on our terms.

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We can complete our journey without their help. Where we are heading, their will be no need for their 'gifts' and tech.

Dont sell your souls/minds, as Tango says, your most powerfull asset for a cheap trinket. Think Jack and his magic beans
My observations tell me that if the "awakened" few (supposedly us) who comprise an extremely small sliver of the world population, can't unite under a very simple intention to communicate without sacrificing one iota of our being, then we DO need help. What is it exactly that gives you reason to believe we don't need help? Go out to your nearest gathering of people (movies, church, grocery or wherever) and see what kind of consensus you can pull together about even the mildest of any of the material we cover here, then get back to me on how well we are doing on our journey. Perhaps we need a trigger for awakening on a larger scale - I think many would agree to this.

We wonder why the ETs went to our governments before they came to the people as a whole. Do you believe we are capable of handling contact if we can't unite under a simple communication and understand how to create a basic contract? Wouldn't you agree this is the same reason we are under the thumb of our respective governments in the 1st place? What choice does the government have? They are herding cats here. If the cats ever realized they were a much greater force under one voice, there would be hell to pay. Let's start here and now.

I'm not selling anything. I'm taking control of the relationship to bring us into harmony. You obviously have fears with regard to contact (many of us do) however these fears can be addressed in our unified response. Once again, they are asking for our choice... meaning they need our choice. If they renig or otherwise deceive, they lose that choice by default and they are back to square one. How does that possibility make sense?

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Originally Posted by iainl140285 View Post
The reward you will receive for realising what you are, for connecting to the truth, will be a million times better than "first" contact. ITS WITHIN OUR GRASP
And how do you suppose this is going to happen? What is your alternate plan? Do you have a plan? Are we going to keep armchair quarterbacking the situation without any of the facts? You may believe you are well on your way into this planetary transition, however billions of your brothers and sisters just may need your help. Are you going to do something about it or are you going to defer that responsibility to someone else? In either case, you are giving up your power by 1) doing nothing and 2) arguing and rejecting opportunities to be of service. Do you believe that you awakened exclusively for your own benefit and because you are part of a select special group of enlightened people or do you believe that awakening is an offer made to you to assist in the transition? I'm on board with the latter myself.

There are no right and wrong answers here - there is only unity/harmony or lack thereof. My purpose here is to bring us into harmony. If you have issues and fears, let's properly address them with our answer.

When Mother Theresa was propositioned by a group of war protesters to support their anti-war cause, she stated that she would support them when they wanted to march for peace.

There is a negative energy to being against something. Positive energy comes from being in the affirmative - FOR something. There is no reason to hold on to our fears and negativity by rejecting this offer. Let's agree to be for contact and eliminate our fears and concerns with agreeable terms. I know that we are ready to do this... you just have to set your mind to overcome apprehension and put pen to paper. There is nothing that can't be worked out here.

So let's lay it out. What are you afraid of? What concerns you? Let's assume the best and prepare for the worst. They are here to serve, however we reserve certain rights and protections to avoid any mishandling of the situation and further do not assume that we know their full capacity and intent. Hell, that's easy. Is this the only problem we have here? That's not a problem. If they didn't need a contract, they wouldn't ask for one. Structuring it to meet our needs is no great feat.

I'm here to serve, however I need your support. Lay it on me. Let's practice a little meeting of the minds and unity here folks.
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