Hi Humble Janitor,
I have a friend down here in Brazil who also studied environmental studies and he beleives in man made carbon dioxide created global warming. I can understand that, as he studied from text books and the information was given to him at the university.
The problem is that he wasn't given the opportunity to look at alternatives and the information he was given (including the famous 'hockey stick') all came from the same source and there lies the problem.
The majorityof us accept information from text books as being the truth, be it history, social studies or environmental studies. We accept the information and don't look to check if the information is correct nor look for alternatives.
There is no-one "discrediting the environmental movement" as you put it, on the contrary, they are wanting an open debate on the subject, which until now has not happened. It appears that a few are wanting to discredit the environmental movement by stating that they are the holders of the truth and that is that! It isn't the people that you mentioned.
Are there changes in the environment? Sure. Nobody is denying that. Are they caused by man made carbon emissions? Not too sure. When I was a kid the fashionable thing was that aerosol sprays were eating away at the ozone layer and we were letting too much sun get through the hole. Now it's because of 'greenhouse' effects made by a layer of CO2. More recently Al Gore said it was because of..... too much laughing gas in the air. This isn't a Republican thing. Absolute calculations do not have a political party, they are right or they are wrong. There are many Democrats that think the same way.
After the recent 'climategate' scandal it appears the very root of information that almost the WHOLE WORLD was using for their calculations is wrong!
It's like the following:
I say that,
x = 2 + 2
2 + 2 = 3
x = 3
I dont tell you how I got to the value of x, I just tell youthat x = 3 and from that youbase all of your future calculus.
Climategate is discovering that 2 + 2 = 3 and it's wrong. The people responsible for this equation (2 + 2 = 3) are trying now to tell us it's too late to change, too late to discuss, that the costs are too high to investigate this and that the global tax on the environment has to be agreed on. All based on 2 + 2 = 3!
Can you understand why people get a little upset?
Best regards,
Steve
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Originally Posted by Humble Janitor
A few questions:
1. Who is James Corbett?
2. Why are people so hell-bent on discrediting the envrionmental movement?
3. Why do some politicians still stubbornly refuse to admit that something is going on with the climate?
4. Do Republicans have a vested interest in destroying the environmental movement?
From what I've seen as a student of environmental studies, it isn't even close to the radical, granola-munching liberal stereotypes that people like to throw at it.
THE environment affects ALL of us.
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