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Baron · 11-19-2009, 03:37 PM

Those of you who think that non accredited qualifications aka PHONY and are the same as legitimate qualifications! Need to have your heads examined!

The "stooge" who follows me around every time I respond about these two frauds! Odd that. Said that True Ott has an "ND" and a "Phd" Ok how do you know? Because he says so,or you are trying to legitimise yourself? Or its written on his website? Well I know because I know the team that's investigated these frauds!

What they have are NON accredited diplomas that you can buy off the net or via mail order that are worthless! Many get away with it because most folks sadly are ignorant of these facts.

Have you seen the diplomas and have you followed up on the university or medical school they were issued? Na thought not.

Do you know its the law in all States and most of the western world for the practitioner to display his diplomas in his office and also on request to inform potential patients where and when he gained his qualifications. If one has a website one MUST give a brief bio of not only his/her qualifications but the University or medical school he attended and contact details.

So now tell me why after many requests do both Bill "Liar" Deagle and True Ott, not done so, and ignore multiple requests for details of their qualifications? Also that they display neither only a bunch of letters after their names with no bio or details on their snake oil websites! WHICH IS REQUIRED BY LAW.

Funny how you only mentioned True Ott's qualifications and no details, but nothing on what Deagle has!! You really are Deagle's stooge and his cronies?

Also you posted videos of that other idiot stooge Alex Studer he even says statement like on a video I posted,on the word-press link, that Deagle is an "MD" why Because Deagle says he is uses the abbreviation MD and implies it! But I can tell you categorically that he is NOT and has never been an MD. Now how can you trust a man who gets simple things wrong with important matters? You cannot.

Oh and that home made video of his tirade for "LAFco" was like any person going down to their local council and sprouting off some nonsense statement while onlookers who were there being dumbfounded what he was on about, having a right to speak about local matters and then picking up a video camera of yourself and then posting it as if he was doing something important and this was going to do something! The poor onlookers had no idea what he was on about! How do we know, contact and information was requested from SF LAFco, Laugh co was very appropriate. Real life checking does wonders to expose these fantasists.

Going back to True Ott lets pretend now that he has these qualifications?
Lets look at his title he uses! "Dr True Ott ND Phd" What's wrong with this?

Do you know? We do and any real Doctor or Professor will tell you.

Firstly "ND" is not a qualification that qualifies you for or is relevant to earn or even qualify you for studying for a Phd. So that means he has an undergraduate degree hidden in his resume? NO he does not have one so he cannot earn a Phd! So that means he does not have a real one.

Oh and Phd is a Doctorate degree of philosophy, so you can write your thesis about how sand feels on your feet! It still does not make you an MD.

Also if one has a Phd and you do not have either MD or D.O you must only use Phd after your name and not prefix "Dr" or Doctor as that can allude that you are an MD or D.O!Which is fraud. D.O. is short for Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine by the way!

MD and D.O are the only qualifications that allows them to prescribe medicine and perform surgery and treat the whole person.

There are a few loop holes Psychologists in some States and some countries can prescribe medication, Psychotherapist have similar rules.

So the only thing True about True Ott is his name, as nobody in their right mind would want to be called True, perhaps he should change it to True Liar.
Besides he's a nut job anyway selling his snake oil via his website and radio show also selling aliens conspiracies and other crazy stuff they can make up or repeat fear mongering, so he's not practising being an ND other than by default and alludes again to being a Doctor of medicine or D.O which he is NOT!!!

Note about ND or Naturepath the philosophy has many benefits and is another form of complementary medicine 4 years study when legitimate, and by an honest practitioner who just sites his Nauturepath qualification without alluding to be a Doctor unless he/she has trained firstly as an MD or D.O.

Most though gain it without much proper training, to get on the health sales bandwagon which is true in this case.

But Deagle abused a loophole with a cross over illegal in most US States at the time with a worthless qualification coming from Canada to Colorado which managed to give him the ability to prescribe pharmaceuticals! Which was revoked as you now know but to late before several people were injured and one person dying!

Oh and as for Bill Deagles titles he uses! LOL No real Doctor would have these up after his name! All are associations being a member does not mean you have any qualifications! "Dr. Wm. R. Deagle MD, ABFP, CCFP, CIME, AAAAAM, ACOEM, AAPM, SPPM, AAEM
American Board Family Physician"Note the "MD" this is copied direct from his website telling people he is a real Doctor! He is NOT and he is based in California and if you go and check at the California Colorado or the Canadian Medical board you can check him out he's NOT licensed. His website does not give anything as to WHERE he picked up his qualifications because they are worthless and the loophole he had was revoked by the Colorado Medical Board years ago!

In the USA you have to be licensed for such things as Hairdresser/stylist barber and Tattoo artist etc, so licensing is essential!

So Bill & Kerry why are you ignoring US and giving attention to liars and frauds like these with some tall story's,who make up things like this, secret agents aliens probably framed him and set him up to be an idiot! Because of what he found out by visions or some such nonsense!

Oh and while I'm here I know Deagle & Ott and some other ignorant stooges & frauds are reading this, go on that's a challenge prove us wrong go on we dare you.

Not a chance you would rather duck and dive never answering a direct question with a direct true answer than for you to be honest and tell the truth of what you are. REPEATERS of other peoples work for your own aggrandisement and PROFIT. You have no knowledge secret source research or aliens talking to you period, you just rip off other peoples stuff direct off the net and all that has been obvious for years! YOU are REPEATERS and FRAUDS.

Oh and for those who want to know or hear about the UFOs, Aliens, Annanuki go read the sources by the real researchers and investigators! Not second hand from these REPEATERS. if you want to know about Underground bases you should read Richard Sauder not what reapter Alex Suder is posting and the photos we have seen since the 1970/80s!! You want to read about UFOs read Timothy Good or Richard Dolan or want to know about the Ananuki read Zecharia Sitchin or vaccination and pandemics read Jane Burgermeister and the real whistle blower testimony a google search will do it for real good sources these are just a few.But stay away from repeaters multi hand information gained by trolling the net for profit no matter how good they waffle on!

But the real embarrassment is going to be "Arthur Neumann" formerly Henry Deacon and Pete Peterson expose!Coming soon LOL that's the last we will hear of them!
I suppose Camelot will say they have gone underground because the mystery people men in black aliens reptilians greys or irods are after them! LOL

Baron

Trying to sort the wheat from chaff for no gain and help those who need it to find that mysterious elusive thing called THE TRUTH.

11-19-2009, 03:37 PM	#46
Baron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 79	Re: bill deagle interveiw november 09 Those of you who think that non accredited qualifications aka PHONY and are the same as legitimate qualifications! Need to have your heads examined! The "stooge" who follows me around every time I respond about these two frauds! Odd that. Said that True Ott has an "ND" and a "Phd" Ok how do you know? Because he says so,or you are trying to legitimise yourself? Or its written on his website? Well I know because I know the team that's investigated these frauds! What they have are NON accredited diplomas that you can buy off the net or via mail order that are worthless! Many get away with it because most folks sadly are ignorant of these facts. Have you seen the diplomas and have you followed up on the university or medical school they were issued? Na thought not. Do you know its the law in all States and most of the western world for the practitioner to display his diplomas in his office and also on request to inform potential patients where and when he gained his qualifications. If one has a website one MUST give a brief bio of not only his/her qualifications but the University or medical school he attended and contact details. So now tell me why after many requests do both Bill "Liar" Deagle and True Ott, not done so, and ignore multiple requests for details of their qualifications? Also that they display neither only a bunch of letters after their names with no bio or details on their snake oil websites! WHICH IS REQUIRED BY LAW. Funny how you only mentioned True Ott's qualifications and no details, but nothing on what Deagle has!! You really are Deagle's stooge and his cronies? Also you posted videos of that other idiot stooge Alex Studer he even says statement like on a video I posted,on the word-press link, that Deagle is an "MD" why Because Deagle says he is uses the abbreviation MD and implies it! But I can tell you categorically that he is NOT and has never been an MD. Now how can you trust a man who gets simple things wrong with important matters? You cannot. Oh and that home made video of his tirade for "LAFco" was like any person going down to their local council and sprouting off some nonsense statement while onlookers who were there being dumbfounded what he was on about, having a right to speak about local matters and then picking up a video camera of yourself and then posting it as if he was doing something important and this was going to do something! The poor onlookers had no idea what he was on about! How do we know, contact and information was requested from SF LAFco, Laugh co was very appropriate. Real life checking does wonders to expose these fantasists. Going back to True Ott lets pretend now that he has these qualifications? Lets look at his title he uses! "Dr True Ott ND Phd" What's wrong with this? Do you know? We do and any real Doctor or Professor will tell you. Firstly "ND" is not a qualification that qualifies you for or is relevant to earn or even qualify you for studying for a Phd. So that means he has an undergraduate degree hidden in his resume? NO he does not have one so he cannot earn a Phd! So that means he does not have a real one. Oh and Phd is a Doctorate degree of philosophy, so you can write your thesis about how sand feels on your feet! It still does not make you an MD. Also if one has a Phd and you do not have either MD or D.O you must only use Phd after your name and not prefix "Dr" or Doctor as that can allude that you are an MD or D.O!Which is fraud. D.O. is short for Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine by the way! MD and D.O are the only qualifications that allows them to prescribe medicine and perform surgery and treat the whole person. There are a few loop holes Psychologists in some States and some countries can prescribe medication, Psychotherapist have similar rules. So the only thing True about True Ott is his name, as nobody in their right mind would want to be called True, perhaps he should change it to True Liar. Besides he's a nut job anyway selling his snake oil via his website and radio show also selling aliens conspiracies and other crazy stuff they can make up or repeat fear mongering, so he's not practising being an ND other than by default and alludes again to being a Doctor of medicine or D.O which he is NOT!!! Note about ND or Naturepath the philosophy has many benefits and is another form of complementary medicine 4 years study when legitimate, and by an honest practitioner who just sites his Nauturepath qualification without alluding to be a Doctor unless he/she has trained firstly as an MD or D.O. Most though gain it without much proper training, to get on the health sales bandwagon which is true in this case. But Deagle abused a loophole with a cross over illegal in most US States at the time with a worthless qualification coming from Canada to Colorado which managed to give him the ability to prescribe pharmaceuticals! Which was revoked as you now know but to late before several people were injured and one person dying! Oh and as for Bill Deagles titles he uses! LOL No real Doctor would have these up after his name! All are associations being a member does not mean you have any qualifications! "Dr. Wm. R. Deagle MD, ABFP, CCFP, CIME, AAAAAM, ACOEM, AAPM, SPPM, AAEM American Board Family Physician"Note the "MD" this is copied direct from his website telling people he is a real Doctor! He is NOT and he is based in California and if you go and check at the California Colorado or the Canadian Medical board you can check him out he's NOT licensed. His website does not give anything as to WHERE he picked up his qualifications because they are worthless and the loophole he had was revoked by the Colorado Medical Board years ago! In the USA you have to be licensed for such things as Hairdresser/stylist barber and Tattoo artist etc, so licensing is essential! So Bill & Kerry why are you ignoring US and giving attention to liars and frauds like these with some tall story's,who make up things like this, secret agents aliens probably framed him and set him up to be an idiot! Because of what he found out by visions or some such nonsense! Oh and while I'm here I know Deagle & Ott and some other ignorant stooges & frauds are reading this, go on that's a challenge prove us wrong go on we dare you. Not a chance you would rather duck and dive never answering a direct question with a direct true answer than for you to be honest and tell the truth of what you are. REPEATERS of other peoples work for your own aggrandisement and PROFIT. You have no knowledge secret source research or aliens talking to you period, you just rip off other peoples stuff direct off the net and all that has been obvious for years! YOU are REPEATERS and FRAUDS. Oh and for those who want to know or hear about the UFOs, Aliens, Annanuki go read the sources by the real researchers and investigators! Not second hand from these REPEATERS. if you want to know about Underground bases you should read Richard Sauder not what reapter Alex Suder is posting and the photos we have seen since the 1970/80s!! You want to read about UFOs read Timothy Good or Richard Dolan or want to know about the Ananuki read Zecharia Sitchin or vaccination and pandemics read Jane Burgermeister and the real whistle blower testimony a google search will do it for real good sources these are just a few.But stay away from repeaters multi hand information gained by trolling the net for profit no matter how good they waffle on! But the real embarrassment is going to be "Arthur Neumann" formerly Henry Deacon and Pete Peterson expose!Coming soon LOL that's the last we will hear of them! I suppose Camelot will say they have gone underground because the mystery people men in black aliens reptilians greys or irods are after them! LOL Baron *Trying to sort the wheat from chaff for no gain and help those who need it to find that mysterious elusive thing called THE TRUTH.* Last edited by Baron; 11-19-2009 at 05:10 PM.