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Originally Posted by Moxie

"I believe that there is ONE truth and ONE reality -- and we need to all head in that ONE direction to find it. Note: this is a DIFFERENT thing from "perceptions"...

That is my view as well, One Actuality. I would also have to say that it's admirable that you have not allowed your experiences to shape what you believe. What you want, if I am correct, is to KNOW.

That's right. No matter what I experience, I can't say for sure I know anything. It "seems" as if I have had heaps of abduction experiences. I have a patch of missing skin on my leg for a start (that wasn't there when I went to sleep). It got infected and was bruised in that spot for three years. I still have the mark. That pretty much qualifies as an abduction experience in most people's books (ie: scoop marks).. but was I abducted? Well, let's just say that I don't have the video footage and no one got a post card from "Mars". I've also woken up with various other injuries. How did I get them? I don't know. All I know is that I was fine when I went to bed.

Originally Posted by Moxie

I've had lots of experiences oobe's, lucid dreams that changed to being in another realm (conscious while body is asleep), that kind of thing... I've had encounters w/"demonic" beings (at least that was how I responded, w/terror.. but it could have been that I had extreme cognitive disonance, nowhere to put the stuff)... I've also had many, numerous Victory dreams (that's what I call them, overcoming dire obstacles) but my point is, I do not "believe" in reincarnation either because I don't KNOW it is the Truth absolutely. I don't know if I have any beliefs anymore at all! I know that I exist and I know there is Something that guides me, call it God, but I don't believe in Jesus at all but rather, I do use the term Christ consciousness, which are attributes of spirit.

I neither believe - nor disbelieve in reincarnation. All I know is that I have memories from "somewhere" and I had them since I was a kid. I still have them and I am getting new "memories" all the time. Is this a past life? I really don't know.

Originally Posted by Moxie

The mind, is a terrible thing huh?? (smirks)... anyway, having had so many deja vu's, precognitions that happened, seeing visions,etc... Still I do not KNOW any more than I did before. The more I learn, the less I know.

EXACTLY! Me too. The more things I experience, the more puzzle pieces I have to join together, and the more difficult it all becomes. I have so many experiences, I could find a "theory" for every single one of them. But that theory might very well be based on my "perception" which may very well not be correct.

Originally Posted by Moxie

Let me give you an example of how perceptions matter. It was (from my perception) a kind gesture by Reader that taking a break might be useful and you replied ... "I really don't think it's appropriate for you to suggest I go find something else to do."

That reply tells me that you might be under alot of stress over your experiences, together w/a bit of a hair trigger dealing w/people in general, perhaps from your expectations. Your response to Reader might have expressed a good chuckle of appreciation.

Actually - I am quite sure I perceived correctly. I don't think the comment was really necessary and didn't contribute anything useful to the thread.

Originally Posted by Moxie

I empathize w/your concern over the dreams & experiences your entire life. There is nothing anyone can say except, thanks for sharing them, as we don't know what they mean either or how to stop them.... but next time you have an encounter, try to ask them who they are, what they want. And, since you're certain that you Know Jesus exists (the one thing you Do know from what you've written), ask him for assistance and protection.

Here's the thing. More often than not, I can feel a dark presence literally ripping my soul from my body. Is this a "grey" is this a "demon" is it a "drunk goat wearing slippers?" I don't know -- all I know is SOMETHING has been "attacking" me. And you don't wake up with a swollen neck and face from "dreams". During these attacks, I can feel it in my mind. I can feel it in my body. It has a stench that makes me feel as though I am in a universe of darkness. It's PUTRID. I cannot adequately describe how HORRIBLE and EVIL this "presence" actually is. I am usually in a state of fighting just to remain conscious. I can't move. I can't talk. I can't do anything and there is NO worse feeling than this, that I have ever experienced. I simply do NOT have the words to describe how POWEREFUL, OVERBEARING and FRIGHTENING this "entity" or these "entities" actually are. So in the midst of all that: "Um, hello Mr Creepy Dark Lord, who is tearing out my soul -- I am just wondering, who are you and where are you from?" -- usually isn't on my priority of thoughts. I am quite sure that I have been darn lucky to wake up again the next morning many times. All I know is I want it AWAY from me. I don't CARE where it's from and I do NOT want to see it again!

The very reason I "personally" and "wholeheartedly" believe that Jesus is Lord is because for YEARS, I did not call on his name. I didn't know or think to (as I was not raised in a Church). I tried to fight these entities myself, with my own strength. I was left to within an inch of my life, many times. I can't express how I have suffered. However, I began (at one stage) to (at least TRY, even though I couldn't speak) to say: "Jesus, help me". Then, the moment I said that (in my mind), they disappeared.

However, they would show up again the next night (of course) to present me with my scheduled entertainment. Whoever, I said the same thing. Then, they started showing up less and less. Then, I realized the power of Jesus (by example, I had found that they bow to his name -- and LEAVE) and I started praying more and more and also, mainly for that reason, became more interested in what the Bible had to say.

Then, I would pray each night before I want to bed, and I would also read the Bible and pray that Jesus let me understand what I am reading. Before long, I started to understand a lot of things that I didn't quite understand in the BIble. I could share that understanding with people except most people aren't interested because they've decided that it's "useless propaganda for religious people".

I am not religious. I wasn't raised religious. I am not familiar with church rituals, customs or traditions (which is all a part of "religion"). When I was a kid, I didn't know the Bible from a brick. It is all these dreams and experiences that I've had all of my life that lead me to look for answers. These days, I do not suffer those attacks (although I CAN still sense them "sniffing" for me). I have also become quite versed with the concepts on the Bible -- and to the surprise of many who couldn't care less to take the time to ASK ME before JUDGING my "beliefs", I have also found that pretty much all religion operates it total contrast and polarization to the words of the Bible. This is why I get so uptight when people (off the bat) assume that I am a bible thumping religious nut, on some sort of crusade to convert the world. Especially when they spout things that I KNOW are not "from" the Bible, but are from public "perception" which is REALLY mixed up and convoluted. The people OFTEN responsible for this are "church goers" themselves! ie: "Religious people", or people in cults such as JW's and Mormons.

If I did decide to go on a "crusade", the FIRST place I'd go is to a church, and I'd KICK the front door straight in too -- and start pulling people over pews and pulpits by their ears for being so blasphemous and hypocritical. I'd probably start with the satanic Vatican.

I might make a post before long, explaining what my views actually are, including where and how I got them, so that in future, when someone takes it upon themselves to disrupt a thread to explain how horrible the Bible is (in an veiled effort to discredit my views by stealth), I can just send them there and everyone can save themselves a heap of debates and arguing over nothing but presumptions and personal perception.