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Originally Posted by Kinsuemei2

Hold on M1, I know your a christian and your belief system shall always defend itself no matter what anybody says, but she was making a accurate observation, not to mention the bible was mistranslated on gross level, the fact remains too much about the religion is prone to skepticism that's why the call it FAITH, the belief in a system that holds not basis that can be proven.

lets look at Jesus, he is only mentioned in conditioned history, no real history exists, I can tell you of over 40 Hebrew scholars that documented the times of Jesus era, because they lived during those times and not one of them mentions him, only through the manipulated roman catholic industry was he written in, and desperately so.

I have to much doubt about the religion because its of its strict contradictory rules, plus no christian seems to follow ANY of them not one, God never mentioned in his commandments that we should follow the word of a MAN, this pisses me off to no end because, God clearly states that he is the god and no other yet people still use Jesus to pray through, and ask Jesus for help and not god, he is the son of God okay great, do ask Jesus if you can sleep over in his house or his dad?

The whole Christian vs Muslim thing also annoys me as it is a mute debate, two Identical religions with very few discrepancy that are fundamentally at war, how pointless and pathetic that ultimately results in a massive loss of life on a major scale, you have school girls in Indonesia that are being decapitated by Muslims and Muslims being burned in Malaysia by Christians

Please the FACT that religion is a major Problem with our society is very real, and as long as we have people willing to fight and die for the same god under the same sky on the same planet, just goes to show how enslaved narrow minded and controllable we are.

One thing i saw that shows me a lot about this religion, you watch the evangelical guys and they get up and feel the holy spirit and dance around like a bunch of idiots, now go to a church, in the UK or watch songs of praise, is it the fact that because Brits are not Americans they can not feel the holy spirit or fall out, like I have seen happen over here? are we out of the club because we are different, please somebody explain that because it just further shows me what utter ******** it really is and the lengths people go to just to belong to a cult that earns more money than any other organization in the USA.

My uncle in law is a pastor, and whilst his family lives in the ghetto, he lives like a king, he wont help them, but it makes me ask, why pay tides when these people are lining their pockets with god money?? and what does god need with a star ship? what does he need with money? again ridiculous notions that brought about the very tax we all have to suffer now.

M1 this is not an attack on you but the religion and these are my own personal views, I just do not like it when people get high and might and say somebody dose not know about a subject, who are you to say what anybody knows, or does not know. The fact is you don't know either, none of us know what went on back in those days, but the facts we follow today raise serious invalidation's to the religion at present, for good or bad.

Fighting about this subject is the very opposite of what the subject is supposed to represent, yet that is all we do and all we shall ever do as long as people are concerned with the my god rules and your god dose not,

Don't even get me started on the complete disregard of previous civilizations, or the Jesus clones that came before him and did exactly the same things.

ok im done

Kinsuemei2, it appears that you have projected your disdain for religion into me. I am very dismayed with your response, because I agree with practically everything you've said. I am dismayed, not because I am "religious" and you've challenged my "beliefs", but because I have to deal with this time and time again - both online and in life. I am not a religious person. I've stated that on this forum more than once.

I just get very tired of people projecting their hate for religion on me. I ALSO can't stand religion. But the Bible isn't a religion. It's book. I could go on to include how you are incorrect with some of the things you've stated above -- but I will stop and agree with you. There's no point in arguing about it.

I am at a loss why people get so upset and angry at the mention of "Jesus". I could also have typed a 35 paragraph response to dolphin, pointing out many discrepancies -- but I am just sick and tired of it. I am really very tired of people, online, basically attacking me because I've read the Bible for 20 years, understand it clearly, and therefore find validity in the word of the Bible. Then I get people who know next to nothing about it, telling me things that flat out aren't true and expect me to sit here and say: "Oh ok, you watched a Dan Brown Movie and Read the Bible Code, so you must know more about it than me".

I have only two options. 1). I can provide lengthy evidence why explaining why person has made incorrect statements, but that would result in an ENDLESS debate over "religion", because 95% if people in this world have NO idea what's written in the Bible. All they know is religion and televangelists and a few cleches.

I am just SO sick and tired of having to debate things -- and defend myself against beliefs WHICH I DON'T EVEN FRICKIN {{{HOLD}}}. I never ever want to debate. I get pulled into them by people who find something to hate about religion and want to take it out on "ME". I say one thing and then people go off on a tangent, getting all upset just because I mentioned Jesus.

Basically dolphin was very rude, saying that a book that I know a lot about and believe, is "propaganda", "mixed with distortions", saying that "Jesus was married to Mary Magdaline (ie: stright from Dan Brown - NOT in the Bible at all), and that all religions go back to Egypt (the Bible is older than Egypt for a start), it's just endless. How was I supposed to respond? "Yeah ok, I am retarded. You are right. I'll never mention anything about the Bible again".

I could have debated but I just can't be bothered. I tried to back out of it, but now you're on my back too, telling me YOU'RE "****** off". I just don't want to debate ok? You tell me you don't want to argue, yet you practically grab me by the hair and pull me straight into the RING. If you REALLY want to debate about it, go and open a thread and I will argue ONCE on this forum about the whole situation. Everyone who hates religion (yet knows practically NOTHING about the Bible) can come and beat the living daylights out of me, get it out of their system - and then hopefully we can all move on.

Then I will get up, dust myself off and explain exactly what's REALLY written in the Bible while everyone else sits down to catch their breath.

Edit: And P.S. I've noticed that you CONSTANTLY post UTTERLY unrelated things in my posts. You DOUBLE post things. You take things WAY off topic -- and I'd appreciate it if you'd start creating your OWN threads, instead of hijacking mine. I request that you go and create a new topic and take dolphin with you, called "WHY I HATE THE BIBLE AND RELIGIOUS PEOPLE". I will give my response there, so this thread isn't cluttered up with the tired of Bible arguments that are all over the internet, which I am UTTERLY sick and tired of!