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Originally Posted by Unified Serenity
You know, I can't help but feel a whole topic was destroyed and disclosure stopped. Now we have a completely new take on Reps going on and those who were willing to share their less than positive experiences removed from sight. I am not against anyone posting their experiences or views in an experience thread if they have a direct experience.
I believe somewhere in the rules, maybe rule #3 that someone who derails topics no matter how funny or positive is still a troll according to that rule. It appears that a year ago disclosure on Rep experience was tried and it failed. It was tried again, and before people could even say much the energy of openness was turned hostile.
If you don't understand what I mean, let me use the analogy of a woman raped by a football team. She goes to the hospital and the doctor in charge reviews her case, walks in and says, "Wow, what a game we had tonight! Those boys sure can play! My two favorite football teams are UNC and anyone playing Duke". While those comments are innocuous, they are most inappropriate given the circumstances. I hope people who have had direct experiences positive and negative will share their stories, and anyone who is a non-experiencer will really think before they respond with some pithy comment. If a mod wants to censor me so be it, but the reality remains the same. Of course if our words are not recorded for the sake of history, then who does the truth belong to? I think the YouTube - George Orwell Film - 1984 - Part 10 link I posted tells us. |
The moderators are not ogre royal rulers of of the Kingdom of Censorship. 99.9999% of the time the list members are mature enough and capable enough of moderating themselves in this social situation so that others are not feeling too terribly abused. The moderators are not all sitting here picking over each forum post with a fine tooth comb. Really - these days how often must we take on the difficult task of intervention? It is usually when a member has called for our assistance.
It's not WHAT you say but HOW you say it.
The other thread went south with the 2nd post, which was done quite innocently and without malice and what I saw after that was an explosion between two vastly different points of view - and the problem was the highly-charged hostility being hurled at non-experiencers who innocently stepped into a hornets nest - and some of the most hostile posts have been removed.
This is a highly charged topic, and I believe the experiencers can make their points better if they can take a few deep breaths and do so with less emotional charge. Reactions tend to be equal and opposite. The more forcefully you try to make your point the greater the other point of view is repelled away from you. The meeting ground of working out issues like this depends on keeping the emotional charges minimized.
As far as the comments about rule #3 and labeling light-hearted responders as trolls - well, to me that sounds a little too much like extreme censorship. Are we having censorship on this forum or not? You want the right to speak your mind. Everyone wants the right to speak their mind. It can be done without personal attacks, name-calling, etc.
What killed the other thread and stopped disclosure? I think it was over-reaction on the part of the experiencers. I think this topic could be back on track. Be the change you want to see.