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14 Chakras · 10-14-2009, 10:07 PM

For me the saviour is not a guy, it is a conscisouness. I personally think that those who go to church and call themselves "Christians" typically have it wrong nowadays. It is not about being a nice guy, or trying to live a good life, then you die and 'go to heaven'. That is deception really, the deception is that the matter realm and the spiritual realm are seperate, in reality you can be in the consciousness of 'heaven' here on earth while you are in a body, and this is the path that Jesus came to demonstrate.

It is about being "reborn" in consciousness as Jesus continually spoke of. He wasn't here to show us how special he was, that is how human egos have interpreted it, that's because it takes away their personal responsibility to be the Christ as Jesus was the Christ. He came to show us how special YOU are.

We are meant to remember who we are beyond the matrix and be One with with our higher Self, the I AM, the Father, as Jesus demonstrated. This is the true path.

Beliefs are beliefs, and they keep the matrix well fed and happy. Truth is beyond belief, you experience truth when you surrender your illusions of separation and know reality is Oneness.

Although Bladvatskey was not perfect, Ptah has a point, she was significantly more advanced consciously than most, and certainly than your average preacher. She did bring forth some value.

The point is she did not fully channel her works, they were inspired, but she wrote them. So they are a mixed bag because of her own consciousness.

That's no different than any other person on this earth. All of us have illusions, all of us have darkness and are suseptiable to being used by dark forces as long as we have the ego. We can transend the ego, and be reborn as Jesus continually told us we needed to be, because truth is beyond the ego, and it is truth that will set us free.

But most are unwilling. Many are called few choose. Do you?

10-14-2009, 10:07 PM	#71
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Jordan Maxwell Interview Thread For me the saviour is not a guy, it is a conscisouness. I personally think that those who go to church and call themselves "Christians" typically have it wrong nowadays. It is not about being a nice guy, or trying to live a good life, then you die and 'go to heaven'. That is deception really, the deception is that the matter realm and the spiritual realm are seperate, in reality you can be in the consciousness of 'heaven' here on earth while you are in a body, and this is the path that Jesus came to demonstrate. It is about being "reborn" in consciousness as Jesus continually spoke of. He wasn't here to show us how special he was, that is how human egos have interpreted it, that's because it takes away their personal responsibility to be the Christ as Jesus was the Christ. He came to show us how special YOU are. We are meant to remember who we are beyond the matrix and be One with with our higher Self, the I AM, the Father, as Jesus demonstrated. This is the true path. Beliefs are beliefs, and they keep the matrix well fed and happy. Truth is beyond belief, you experience truth when you surrender your illusions of separation and know reality is Oneness. Although Bladvatskey was not perfect, Ptah has a point, she was significantly more advanced consciously than most, and certainly than your average preacher. She did bring forth some value. The point is she did not fully channel her works, they were inspired, but she wrote them. So they are a mixed bag because of her own consciousness. That's no different than any other person on this earth. All of us have illusions, all of us have darkness and are suseptiable to being used by dark forces as long as we have the ego. We can transend the ego, and be reborn as Jesus continually told us we needed to be, because truth is beyond the ego, and it is truth that will set us free. But most are unwilling. Many are called few choose. Do you? Last edited by 14 Chakras; 10-14-2009 at 10:12 PM.