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Originally Posted by Humble Janitor
The so-called "proof" was found to be a hoax. That "Kenyan" birth certificate that was circulating on the internet not too long ago.
I'll call it what it is and it is SOUR GRAPES. You can argue with me and call me ignorant but I feel the same way about the birther movement.
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If you made sense, I'm sure I could find a way to refute, or at least answer you.
Christo;
Biden becomes President, pursuant to Article 2 Section 1, the 12th and 20th amendment.
No, everyone else doesn't simply "move up". the post of VP then becomes vacant, and it is for Biden to nominate, and the Senate to confirm a successor.
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"If you don't think Obama is a natural born citizen, is he a regular citizen?"He is if, upon return to Hawaii he re-affirmed his citizenship. Once again, Obama says he did, but made all such records unavailable.
"What does his moms age or fathers nationality have to do with anything?"Her age is an issue because of prevailing law concerning a parent's ability to "confer citizenship" at the time of his birth. His father's nationality enters into it, if he was not born in the US. If he wasn't then his father's british citizenship would be conferred.
"Oh and did the state of Illinois bicker about this when he was a senator?"There is no such requirement for becoming a Senator, or Congressman. So no, it was not their place.
"If he's born in the USA (that includes Hawaii btw) he's a citizen."Most likely, yes, but Obama himself has done everything possible to prevent anyone from learning that (see my post above).
Even then, not necessarily. At the time his mother married an Indonesian, and then moved there, Indonesian law required the spouse to become a citizen of their country, children as well. This law was in effect there until 1996. (see above answer re. re-affirmation)
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Again, I ask... For a minute take the Presidency and Obama out of this for a sec, and ask a simple human nature question:
Would you spend over $1 million dollars to keep a traffic ticket out of court, when you could go into court with evidence you were not involved, and settle the matter in 5 minutes, at a cost of $12 ?
At this point, after over a year of such delays, a judge has ruled that one way or another he intends to hear the evidence in the case.
That means Obama doesn't even have to spend the $12! The plaintiff now must incur this expense to subpoena the document. If all is as Obama claims they will immediately discover for themselves they have no case!
Over!
Done!