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14 Chakras · 08-28-2009, 03:44 AM

Very lovely thread, nice flowers growing in this garden, maybe a weed or two to feed the soil too huh?

Honestly, everyone has great comments and I re-read them all and really enjoy.

Here's a couple of comments from me on some below (my strategy is not so much to pat on the back, even though pats on the back are deserved for comments as the posters in this thread have left, but I try to add value by adding another dimension to great things already said... because of course there is always More to the story)...

Carmen:" There is such a thing as spiritual ego to deal with when people start evolving which is a more subtle, trickier, sucker to deal with."

- Yes great point. This is the path, surrendering the illusions and coming into the higher truth. The higher we get, the more subtle the test become, the more subtle the ego becomes. Often, we mistake spiritual experiences for something that sets us apart from others rather than enables us to come closer to the truth of who we are in Oneness with others and our source... that's the growth of the spiritual ego and it's certainly something that any spiritual community will be dealing with on a regular basis.

I personally am committed to the path of going all the Way, not part of the way... because I know that the pesky ego will never bear good fruit, why do I need it? to feed the matrix? To cause others to suffer? Not for me... but I'm still on the path... still climbing the mountain, and I bid hello to my fellow travelers and climbers along the Way...

Redezera: "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

- Yes, Jesus was "One with the "Father"", meaning Jesus had affirmed his Oneness with the Christ consciousness and it is the Christ speaking through Jesus in this line. The question is, do we follow Jesus or have we put him on a pedastle and not really believed him when he told us about "Our father" and that we can do the works that he does only greater works than these we can do when we let the 'father' within do the work?

Have we missed his point entirely, that we too can say "I AM the Way, the truth and life, I and my father are One" when we accept the reality of who we are beyond the matrix? That we too can affirm our Oneness with the Christ consciousness and be an open door for the Living Word? Do we think God is outside of us, or inside of us? Do we think that there is any separation in reality? Or is it true, that all life is One? If it is One, then God is inside of us.

If we believe God is outside of us, then consider we are trapped in the illusion of duality. As it is written, your eye must be single to enter the kingdom of heaven that is inside of you. As long as we see God as outside of us, we see separation, we see illusion, our eye is not single.

Consider, in reality there is nothing outside of God, and therefore, we are in God, God is in us, and we can affirm our Oneness with the source and be the body of God below.

JRod "unless we first expose the darkness, then we will never get to the light"

Yes I agree it is about shining the light of consciousness on the darkness. The point of this line is that if we close our eyes to the negatives, to our own inner darkness or to the darkness in our world, it won't go away.

The dark forces grow in the shadows, both inside of us and in our world. The path to healing and empowerment, is the path of becoming "wise as serpants". Meaning, let's get to the bottom of the problem in our world BOTH inside of us, and outside of us and then shine the light on it. But ignoring the cause and core of the problem and just pretending everything is perfect, in my opinion is not going to get us very far.

For me the path is surrender. We must be willing to see the 'beam' in our own eye, to see and surrender our own 'stuff' in order to be effective at truly shining our inner light.

Right now, our inner light is filtered and blocked, to one degree or another, by our own illusions or 'stuff' we're hanging onto. Another good word for it is 'dwellers' are blocking the way from us truly shining our light. Whether we are jealous, angry, greedy, fearful, whether we have grown a spiritual ego, we are unwise, unpowerful, unbalanced, etc. We each have some darkness that is blocking our full God given divine potential. These are dwellers.

They are not 'bad', however, when we are ready to move up to the next grade in the universal schoolroom, and help the earth pass the cosmic test we are facing, we will need to do the work to surrender the dwellers. That way, we will be an 'open door' for the light which will transform the world.

So from my perspective, the Way to spiritual freedom and to planetary freedom is not to just pretend that the darkness doesn't exist, it is to do the work to see and surrender our 'stuff' to our own God flame within. That way we take off the mask and filters that are blocking our natural state of Being, which is power, wisdom and love perfectly balanced in total abundance in the Now.

Then we will be 'the light of the world' and shine our light so brightly no parasitic PTB / PTW / dark aliens etc. will be able to hide in any shadows anymore...

Important to note, each one of us has a totally unique flame, a totally unique I AM in the mind of God. When we awaken to our true Self, we will access our very own unique divine talents, and our divine individuality and each express the very beautiful and unique aspect of the infinite that we truly are. Together, we will express ourselves in perfect harmony like master musicians in the orchestra of life. That way everything becomes more.

LB: "'why cant everything be cool?'
'well, if everything was cool, how would we know what sucked?'(beavis and butthead)"

- Yes, well for the past few hundred thousand years we've got to see what sucking is. Now, in the eternal Now, it's finally time to see what's cool again.

Note, there will be shadows and some darkness for many more billions of years in this universe, but when we step up, we'll actually be able to take dominion over our own planet and we'll Be much More than we thought we we're. Planet earth will be home to the "I AM" race (those of us who choose to go all the Way), and for all life it will be enlightened and free, as things are meant to be!

and.. this will be cool.

P.S. , and frankly, there are many more planets to help raise up and endless adventure for those that can prove their 'mettle' in this schoolroom.

08-28-2009, 03:44 AM	#20
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: By Their Works Ye Shall Know Them Very lovely thread, nice flowers growing in this garden, maybe a weed or two to feed the soil too huh? Honestly, everyone has great comments and I re-read them all and really enjoy. Here's a couple of comments from me on some below (my strategy is not so much to pat on the back, even though pats on the back are deserved for comments as the posters in this thread have left, but I try to add value by adding another dimension to great things already said... because of course there is always More to the story)... Carmen:" There is such a thing as spiritual ego to deal with when people start evolving which is a more subtle, trickier, sucker to deal with." - Yes great point. This is the path, surrendering the illusions and coming into the higher truth. The higher we get, the more subtle the test become, the more subtle the ego becomes. Often, we mistake spiritual experiences for something that sets us apart from others rather than enables us to come closer to the truth of who we are in Oneness with others and our source... that's the growth of the spiritual ego and it's certainly something that any spiritual community will be dealing with on a regular basis. I personally am committed to the path of going all the Way, not part of the way... because I know that the pesky ego will never bear good fruit, why do I need it? to feed the matrix? To cause others to suffer? Not for me... but I'm still on the path... still climbing the mountain, and I bid hello to my fellow travelers and climbers along the Way... Redezera: "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." - Yes, Jesus was "One with the "Father"", meaning Jesus had affirmed his Oneness with the Christ consciousness and it is the Christ speaking through Jesus in this line. The question is, do we follow Jesus or have we put him on a pedastle and not really believed him when he told us about "Our father" and that we can do the works that he does only greater works than these we can do when we let the 'father' within do the work? Have we missed his point entirely, that we too can say "I AM the Way, the truth and life, I and my father are One" when we accept the reality of who we are beyond the matrix? That we too can affirm our Oneness with the Christ consciousness and be an open door for the Living Word? Do we think God is outside of us, or inside of us? Do we think that there is any separation in reality? Or is it true, that all life is One? If it is One, then God is inside of us. If we believe God is outside of us, then consider we are trapped in the illusion of duality. As it is written, your eye must be single to enter the kingdom of heaven that is inside of you. As long as we see God as outside of us, we see separation, we see illusion, our eye is not single. Consider, in reality there is nothing outside of God, and therefore, we are in God, God is in us, and we can affirm our Oneness with the source and be the body of God below. JRod "unless we first expose the darkness, then we will never get to the light" Yes I agree it is about shining the light of consciousness on the darkness. The point of this line is that if we close our eyes to the negatives, to our own inner darkness or to the darkness in our world, it won't go away. The dark forces grow in the shadows, both inside of us and in our world. The path to healing and empowerment, is the path of becoming "wise as serpants". Meaning, let's get to the bottom of the problem in our world BOTH inside of us, and outside of us and then shine the light on it. But ignoring the cause and core of the problem and just pretending everything is perfect, in my opinion is not going to get us very far. For me the path is surrender. We must be willing to see the 'beam' in our own eye, to see and surrender our own 'stuff' in order to be effective at truly shining our inner light. Right now, our inner light is filtered and blocked, to one degree or another, by our own illusions or 'stuff' we're hanging onto. Another good word for it is 'dwellers' are blocking the way from us truly shining our light. Whether we are jealous, angry, greedy, fearful, whether we have grown a spiritual ego, we are unwise, unpowerful, unbalanced, etc. We each have some darkness that is blocking our full God given divine potential. These are dwellers. They are not 'bad', however, when we are ready to move up to the next grade in the universal schoolroom, and help the earth pass the cosmic test we are facing, we will need to do the work to surrender the dwellers. That way, we will be an 'open door' for the light which will transform the world. So from my perspective, the Way to spiritual freedom and to planetary freedom is not to just pretend that the darkness doesn't exist, it is to do the work to see and surrender our 'stuff' to our own God flame within. That way we take off the mask and filters that are blocking our natural state of Being, which is power, wisdom and love perfectly balanced in total abundance in the Now. Then we will be 'the light of the world' and shine our light so brightly no parasitic PTB / PTW / dark aliens etc. will be able to hide in any shadows anymore... Important to note, each one of us has a totally unique flame, a totally unique I AM in the mind of God. When we awaken to our true Self, we will access our very own unique divine talents, and our divine individuality and each express the very beautiful and unique aspect of the infinite that we truly are. Together, we will express ourselves in perfect harmony like master musicians in the orchestra of life. That way everything becomes more. LB: "'why cant everything be cool?' 'well, if everything was cool, how would we know what sucked?'(beavis and butthead)" - Yes, well for the past few hundred thousand years we've got to see what sucking is. Now, in the eternal Now, it's finally time to see what's cool again. Note, there will be shadows and some darkness for many more billions of years in this universe, but when we step up, we'll actually be able to take dominion over our own planet and we'll Be much More than we thought we we're. Planet earth will be home to the "I AM" race (those of us who choose to go all the Way), and for all life it will be enlightened and free, as things are meant to be! and.. this will be cool. P.S. , and frankly, there are many more planets to help raise up and endless adventure for those that can prove their 'mettle' in this schoolroom. Last edited by 14 Chakras; 08-28-2009 at 05:22 AM.