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I still dont know if I am offensive with my first post in this thread. I didn't think so, but if I am then I really need someone to tell me - a PM would be nice. If I have been, then I apologize to everyone.

mntruthseeker:

I would answer you by saying that if anyone expects any contemporary 1st world government to help people with thier underlying health problems then they are suffering from "full-spectrum-delusion", and totally living in a dying old paradigm. It matters not if you are in the wilderness or a city.

Most people reading this forum know what a farce modern so-called "first world" health-care is and how distorted it is with its commercially driven big-pharma rape of your bank accounts whilst feeding you horrible food that makes things worse.

The condition and expression of health has so little to do with the govenment it is not funny. I find it astonishing to see them even in the same paragraph.

Ultimately the proper expression of health is the responsibility of the individual and the community that the individual resides within.

The government is old paradigm. Whatever law is passed, it will not result in miracle cures for the sick, no doctors will come riding in shining armour to rescue the unhealthy with free meds for all that need it. More likely it will be about a slightly different way of managing resources.

This would happen even if Obama was not president.

The best outcome from any new laws would be greater transparency and truth about what is going on. Mandating that people have more freedom to choose. Perhaps we could still get there if we all try hard for that?

I can see we are far from that, but each little maneuver and step in the right direction is to be applauded.

BTW: Yes I am biased. I am not ashamed to admit it - I have my views and I take full responsibility for them and the effects they have. When I see a peice of political spin charading as "news" designed to strike at the emotions by twisting the context and the facts then I will call it the way I see it. It does not take bias to do that, but I am biased which makes me choose my targets in a biased way.

However, if I present arguments that lack the necessary reason or ring of truth, feel free to take it to debate and if you can change my mind for the highest and best good of all, then so be it!

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