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246 · 07-30-2009, 12:11 AM

If considered in terms of religions, there are obvious biases which result from the specific religious dogmas. Such dogmas call for the religious adherents to BELIEVE certain ways that are contrary to evidence, to BELIEVE in things that have no basis in Logic, to BELIEVE that their god is 'superior' to that god that others BELIEVE.

Such BELIEFS are at the root-cause of all the Human Misery, Hate, Warfare, and the Over-Population on Earth. Such BELIEFS have divided Humankind into armed camps.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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Please consider the following Essay,
Link after the Opening paragraph:::

The Fatal Flaws of Faith and Belief

"All religions rest on the patently illogical, un-provable premise that “what this book says is true because the book says it’s true”. That, unfortunately, is the best that religion has, and ever can offer, as a way of proving it’s God/divine authorship premise, an embarrassingly paltry, painfully childish claim that would be laughed out of any court, as well as any credible institution of higher learning.

"It consequently requires the continuous application of “faith” and “belief” to sustain the promised but perpetually delayed realization, fulfillment and substantiation of its premise and truthfulness. ..." -- Michael Horn

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/The%20Fat...of%20Faith.pdf
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From: THE GODS OF THE EARTH WERE HUMAN

"Do not seek your well being from those that are false prophets and sect leaders, and the like, (priests, popes, reverends, mullahs, imams, gurus) and who smear stolen honey around your muzzles. Rather, seek your well being from the truthful leaders and by the truthful prophets who say to you the truth with hard, pointed words, and who demand effort from you, and hard adherence to the laws and directives of Creation." --- OM 23:14

Oh yes, I'm truthful, and have been fighting those who want me to accept things about my own life they know nothing about. You have to find what's true for yourselves individually, and then dont force others to accept what you think is true for them. But still it's all about sharing. That's how we learn. When you say "truth before peace". What does that mean? Your "truth" before peace or theirs?

07-30-2009, 12:11 AM	#16
246 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: near Toronto Posts: 81	Re: What do you think of God? If considered in terms of religions, there are obvious biases which result from the specific religious dogmas. Such dogmas call for the religious adherents to BELIEVE certain ways that are contrary to evidence, to BELIEVE in things that have no basis in Logic, to BELIEVE that their god is 'superior' to that god that others BELIEVE. Such BELIEFS are at the root-cause of all the Human Misery, Hate, Warfare, and the Over-Population on Earth. Such BELIEFS have divided Humankind into armed camps.[/SIZE][/FONT] ~~~~~ Please consider the following Essay, Link after the Opening paragraph::: The Fatal Flaws of Faith and Belief "All religions rest on the patently illogical, un-provable premise that “what this book says is true because the book says it’s true”. That, unfortunately, is the best that religion has, and ever can offer, as a way of proving it’s God/divine authorship premise, an embarrassingly paltry, painfully childish claim that would be laughed out of any court, as well as any credible institution of higher learning. "It consequently requires the continuous application of “faith” and “belief” to sustain the promised but perpetually delayed realization, fulfillment and substantiation of its premise and truthfulness. ..." -- Michael Horn http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/The%20Fat...of%20Faith.pdf ~~~~~ From: THE GODS OF THE EARTH WERE HUMAN "Do not seek your well being from those that are false prophets and sect leaders, and the like, (priests, popes, reverends, mullahs, imams, gurus) and who smear stolen honey around your muzzles. Rather, seek your well being from the truthful leaders and by the truthful prophets who say to you the truth with hard, pointed words, and who demand effort from you, and hard adherence to the laws and directives of Creation." --- OM 23:14 Oh yes, I'm truthful, and have been fighting those who want me to accept things about my own life they know nothing about. You have to find what's true for yourselves individually, and then dont force others to accept what you think is true for them. But still it's all about sharing. That's how we learn. When you say "truth before peace". What does that mean? Your "truth" before peace or theirs?