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Old 07-23-2009, 04:41 PM   #15
orthodoxymoron
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Default Re: Freedom What does it mean?

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Originally Posted by seashore View Post
Refresh my memory. What was the context in which this was stated?
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...eashore&page=8

orthodoxymoron: The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...in a plain and simple reading...as intended by it's authors...is reflective of Responsible Freedom. The issue is Freedom vs Tyranny. I don't want to be a slave or a master. I don't want to rule over the reptilians and greys...and I don't want them to rule over me. I have done my research...and the United States and the U.S. Constitution have been badly subverted, undermined, ignored, targeted, sabotaged, etc, etc. The rest of the world may need to step up to the plate for the cause of responsible freedom. They may need to voluntarily adopt the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...and just say NO to the NWO. Better Dead Than Rep.

seashore: I've been thinking a lot about the Constitution and I'm realizing that without an enforcement mechanism, it's worthless. Maybe it's a mistake to focus on the document itself, as beautiful as that document is...

othodoxymoron: What would you suggest as an enforcement mechanism? Perhaps George W. Bush was right when he said that the Constitution was 'just a G**D*** piece of paper.' What would you suggest that we focus on? I understand what you are saying...but I'd like to hear you elaborate.

seashore: I'm thinking we need to focus on healing ourselves, worldwide, like what is discussed in this thread. Maybe, if a critical mass of people who are self-reliant is reached, everything else will fall into place.

orthodoxymoron: Should we let the New World Order just happen...while we heal ourselves? What should the German people have done in the 1930's? Should Hitler and the Third Reich have been actively resisted...or should the people have focused on healing themselves? How about both? Anarchy and Self-Centeredness will ultimately result in Tyranny aka The New World Order. Some say that we are here in this mess because we chose to be. Some say that bad things happen to people because they have a victim mentality. So...did the holocaust victims(and all WWII victims) bring the atrocities upon themselves? Self reliance and personal responsibility are extremely important...but reigning in and punishing the bad-guys is equally important. There has to be a central document which provides a legal foundation for a central benchmark concept. Otherwise...we build upon shifting sand.

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